Talk:Convair F-102 Delta Dagger

TF-102 "Tub"
The reason it was called the "tub" was its wallowing subsonic performance due to have the extra frontal area from the side-by-side cockpit - not the side-by-side cockpit itself as this article would seem to be indicating. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.44.141 (talk) 13:47, 17 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Neither claim is cited, though the visual similarity to a tub seems more than obvious. - BilCat (talk) 23:16, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Wing fences
Text says that the second wing fence was added during the transition to an area ruled YF-102A, but in the photos on the page you can clearly see two wing fences on both the YF-102 and the YF-102A. So it must have been added earlier. Also curious why the main photo on the page is of the YF-102 pre-area rule prototype which looks very different from the later production model. Surely a decent photo of a production F-102A could be located. And since it is of a YF-102 I changed the caption, since it is not an F-102 like it claimed before. Thats something like taking a photo of a YF-17, captioning in "F/A-18" and slapping it up as the main image on the F-18 page. 64.222.125.125 (talk) 06:46, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Subsonic with underwing fuel tanks
from http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/f102_1.html

"When the underwing tanks were carried, however, the F-102A was limited to subsonic performance."

Considering that most F-102s were fitted with tanks, this would mean that operationallly they were subsonic Bachcell (talk) 05:19, 2 January 2022 (UTC)


 * That's one reason most such tanks are drop tanks, so they can be jettisoned when needed, such as for dash speed or combat. However, I don't know if Baugher is correct on this. He sometimes isn't. BilCat (talk) 05:50, 2 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I very much doubt that joebaugher.com meets WP:RS, despite being cited in multiple Wikipedia articles. AndyTheGrump (talk) 06:46, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

also here

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/36009/f-102-delta-daggers-weapons-bays-combined-rockets-and-missiles-in-a-feat-of-cold-war-ingenuity

"Carrying its full load of weapons in its belly, the smooth lines of the Delta Dagger were interrupted only by the optional external drop tanks, each carrying either 215 or 192 gallons of additional fuel. However, carrying drop tanks limited the maximum speed to Mach 0.95. " Bachcell (talk) 04:20, 10 January 2022 (UTC)