Talk:Coop Danmark

Status of the article

 * This article was created as a redirect to Coop Norden in 2006
 * Then in 2012, it was redirected to Fællesforeningen for Danmarks Brugsforeninger (which redirects to Coop amba)
 * Today, first redirected it to Coop Denmark, then created an article
 * Today, restored the redirect to  Fællesforeningen for Danmarks Brugsforeninger (which redirects to Coop amba)
 * Today, I fixed the double-redirect so that it redirected to Coop amba, the parent company
 * ThatGuyOnline returned the content he added so that it is once again an article.

Rather than getting into an edit war, let's discuss this. It seems that it would be a fuller article, with better exposure if the content was combined into the parent company article, Coop amba.

Has there been a review of WP:ORG and found that this warrants its own separate article?–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:00, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping. I have no issue with expanding the article, but only one article is needed. There is not enough notability for the underlying Danmark article. So I think the only decision is what to name the article, then settle on the appropriate redirects. Onel 5969  TT me 16:03, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The external link says Coop Danmark A/S - so it seems it should be Coop Danmark or Coop Danmark A/S.


 * I agree that one article, the one about the parent company, should suffice. There is content here that could be moved over there. I'll work on that.–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:09, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * FDB (Fællesforeningen for Danmarks Brugsforeninger) officially changed its name to Coop amba in 2013 after seperating from the pan-Nordic Coop Norden in 2007-2008.
 * Today, I moved Fællesforeningen for Danmarks Brugsforeninger to Coop amba. Meaning that the article has been out-of-date since 2013, and the redirect was only made today.
 * Today, I first created an article on Coop Denmark, but the legal name of the company is Coop Danmark using the Danish spelling of the country of Denmark. So I created the article on Coop Danmark instead.
 * - ThatGuyOnline (talk) 16:11, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok, that makes sense - that seems to be what I got that from the edit summaries. So, you didn't name it Coop Danmark A/S, which is fine if it generally goes by Coop Danmark.–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:15, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Coop Danmark is the common name for the company. See the company structure here: https://om.coop.dk/koncern/coop-familien.aspx. - ThatGuyOnline (talk) 16:18, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Perfect! I merged the content over to Coop amba in a new section for Coop Danmark... and it seems the next step is to restore the redirect, this time to Coop amba, so that it goes to the new section.–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:25, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * ✅–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:38, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Sub articles
There are also sub articles for Coop Danmark stores that could be rolled into the parent company article:
 * Kvickly
 * SuperBrugsen
 * Dagli'Brugsen
 * LokalBrugsen
 * Brugsen
 * Fakta
 * Irma–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:15, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * There is a separate (although old) discussion at Talk:Brugsen about splitting the article into one about the Danish stores and one about the Greenlandic stores, as they are not part of the same company. - ThatGuyOnline (talk) 16:26, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Ok, cool. So,
 * Brugsen - stays as its own article
 * SuperBrugsen - currently redirects to Brugsen
 * Dagli'Brugsen - currently redirects to Brugsen
 * LokalBrugsen - currently redirects to Brugsen
 * Kvickly - merge into Coop amba
 * Fakta - merge into Coop amba#Coop Danmark
 * Irma - merge into Coop amba#Coop Danmark


 * How does that sound?–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:33, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * arma-->amba above–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:39, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Coop has closed several Kvickly stores and re-opened them as SuperBrugsen. So I wouldn't mind someone made a decision on splitting Brugsen. If every other brand/store of Coop is merged with the Coop amba article, then why not Brugsen and SuperBrugsen? Also, it has been reported that Coop may be about to re-brand every remaining Kvickly store with the SuperBrugsen name.
 * In recap: I don't mind the proposed merging of articles, and feel free to merge the info on Brugsen regarding the Danish stores into Coop amba. So that the info on the Greenlandic chain maybe can be moved to another article using a new name. So that Brugsen can become a disambiguation page. - ThatGuyOnline (talk) 16:58, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm confused. The Greenlandic chain, Brugseni, is owned by Coop Danmark (bottom of http://nettorvet.gl/)? An entirely different organization?–CaroleHenson (talk) 17:12, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The official site is http://www.brugsen.gl/ where you'll see "Kalaallit Nunaanni Brugseni" as the full legal name of the company. You may see the "Coop" logo on the membership cards and on the online shopping service http://nettorvet.gl/ but this only relates to the fact that Brugseni is paying Coop Danmark to print the membership cards and to manage the underlying database as well as the online shopping service, as its not possible/profitable to set up certain manufacturing processes in a remote location such as Greenland. See Danish Realm for more information on the relationship between Greenland and Denmark. - ThatGuyOnline (talk) 17:22, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Ok, if they are two separate entities, they should have separate pages. That makes sense. Do you mind updating the discussion about the split with information about this discussion and refer to this page?–CaroleHenson (talk) 17:34, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * They definitely are. It is stated on http://www.brugsen.gl/gl/knb_pillugu/oqaluttuarisaaneq/oqaluttuarisaaneq.htm that they were founded on 1 January 1991, and that the company is owned by the members of the Brugseni cooperate who lives in Greenland. It also states that they have a trade agreement with Coop Danmark, which also makes sense since there are regular shipments between Greenland and Denmark using ships and planes. I would find a third party source but Greenlandic companies rarely have a big online presence. I have updated the discussion on Talk:Brugsen - ThatGuyOnline (talk) 17:49, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks! When I get to Brugsen, I am sure I'm going to need your help to make sure I've got it right... unless you'd like to start splitting it.–CaroleHenson (talk) 18:14, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

I mean, I would have fleshed out every article relating to Coop and FDB, given a total of more than 1200 stores in Denmark and its history dating back more than a 100 years there should be enough to write about. But I have given up trying to make you two Americans care about Denmark and its companies. So I'm out. Enjoy your newly created articles. - ThatGuyOnline (talk) 21:10, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * What? Where did that come from?


 * Why don't you start expanding the Coop amba article and if there's enough to warrant separate articles they can be done later. It would be nice to get a really good main article rolling. See Walmart or Meijer as potential examples.–CaroleHenson (talk) 21:33, 15 April 2017 (UTC)