Talk:Cooya Pooya

When was the lease taken up?
The article says:

The first ref (Western Mail) says (with my emphasis):

But the second one (Ministerial Media Statements) says (again, my emphasis):

There's an 18-year difference in the dates. Who do we believe? Mitch Ames (talk) 03:48, 22 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Good Question, I agree that the two dates are contradictory but there are newspaper articles on Trove that talk about Table Hill in 1872 (although owned by Hickes, with Lockyer owning another property.)




 * and in 1879




 * the third reference used in the article also talks about the son George Locker arriving at age 28 the dying at age 49 in 1893 which means he arrived in 1872.


 * It seemed reasonable to assume the establishment of the property was far more likely to be 1864, which was the only quoted date I could find prior to 1872.


 * However if you would prefer it could be edited to read established at some time between 1864 and 1872 or established at some time between 1864 and 1882 Hughesdarren (talk) 05:06, 22 September 2013 (UTC)


 * The 1872 article says:


 * So the Table Hill station was there in 1872, although apparently not Lockyer's. Is it possible that Hickes owned the station (hence it was "Mr. Hickes' station") but the Lockyers leased (hence "took up the lease") or managed (hence "Thomas Lockyer ... started Cooya Pooya")? The 1872 article's "Lockyer lost ... at ... the same station" suggests that Lockyer could have been leasing part of Table Hill - but presumably his stock was separate to Hickes'.
 * I read the 1893 article as:


 * He arrived "28 years ago", ie in 1865 (1893-28=1865), not "aged 28" (1893-49+28=1872).
 * Here is the heritage listing, which might (or might not) clarify things. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:13, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * It does say ago not age as I had read - Well picked. I should use the zoom function on trove more often in future. Fixed the text in the wiki article to suit. Cheers Hughesdarren (talk) 13:31, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Heritage listing assessment documentation says "Thomas Lockyer, a  Northam settler, and his four sons took up Table Hill Station (later  Cooya  Pooya) in 1882." but we have newspaper articles and letters suggesting they were there before that...  Mitch Ames (talk) 13:49, 24 September 2013 (UTC)