Talk:Copper Canyon Press

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Hi, Icarus of old, I'm new at this, so I'm curious why you reverted my edits, why the Copper Canyon Press page does not need references after attributing quotes to other people ("called the best publisher of poetry in America by the noted Michigan writer Jim Harrison") or making claims such as the press "achieved national stature when it attracted the foremost American poet..." etc. It is my understanding that such things are supposed to be backed up by third-party articles. Thanks.66.220.230.27 (talk) 18:00, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, the quote comes directly from the first source. And yes, when a small press attracts a nationally-acclaimed poet away from its huge publisher, it does achieve national stature, as the same source also points out. So, I referenced both of those with the reference, which, if you read, maintains all of the points made. Tagging is helpful, but doing a little research saves a lot of time. Thanks. Also, try to limit the discussion of points like this to its main page of relevance. Icarus of old (talk) 23:51, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I've removed the quote referred to above, since that "first link" is invalid. If anyone wants to restore it, please support it with a valid link to a proper Littlewindow (talk) 15:37, 16 December 2012 (UTC)source.


 * Also, Sam Hamill, until he refused to accept an award from the Bush White House a few years ago and was "let go" because of political pressure for an anti-Bush ad in the New York Times, was a founder plus Managing Editor of the Copper Canyon Press for something like 30 years. He is a noted poet and translator of Japanese poetry. Denise Levertov, certainly a major poet, was publishing with Copper Canyon before her death. &mdash; Mattisse  (Talk) 00:15, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

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This page seems laden with |Peacock Peacock words. An example wikipedia gives of such language is "Bob Dylan is the defining figure of the 1960s counterculture and a brilliant songwriter." And here we have very similar language: " the picturesque town of Port Townsend, Washington...  has established an international reputation ... achieved national stature... was launched with abundant passion and vision by a few dedicated individuals ... producing and marketing trade books that would maintain the highest possible standards of typography and design... devoted to the power of poetry in our lives...  All of this is just anonymous boastful opinion, not properly sourced.--Littlewindow (talk) 20:32, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

I agree. The whole section labeled "History" reads like a press release, and since it is unsourced it should be removed entirely. The top half is fine; the bottom half is fluff. (e.g. "poetry ... nourishes the soul.")Catherinejarvis (talk) 17:12, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Upon rereading the article, it seems to me even worse than my first impression: it's so effusively promotional that it at least comes close to being spam.  I don't agree that the first half is ok; e.g. "... has established an international reputation for its commitment to authors, editorial acumen, and dedication to the poetry audience" is clearly peacock and promotional.  Littlewindow (talk) 15:48, 14 December 2012 (UTC)