Talk:Coral Springs, Florida/Archive 1

Coming along well!
Great to see my hometown finally get some meaningful info up on its Wiki page! :) I wanted to suggest we put up some *brief* information about points of interest (parks, theaters, etc.).

I've heard that Coral Springs has been ranked in publications as one of the greatest place to bring up children. I haven't been able to confirm this. Can anyone confirm or deny this and find the proof?

The Demographics section needs a bit of a cleanup. Ideally, that would be formatting it to make it less initially mindboggling, but shortening it would work as well. I want to leave a bit of time for someone to do the first before I do the second. Blue Crest 03:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Vandal
Okay, what is it with the guy that keeps slipping in the "white compton" crap? Charlieo88 04:00, 2 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Relative to most any other city in the Country, kids are so safe in Coral Springs that they find it cool and exciting to pretend they live in the hood. They actually want to make the place appear more ghetto. When they get any type of real world perspective, they should grow out of it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rstepp (talk • contribs) 04:58, 1 April 2007 (UTC).

Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School
Someone keeps adding Douglas High School back into this article. As the school is in Parkland, not Coral Springs, it should not be listed in this entry. I have deleted it again. Horologium 05:33, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I just readded the (in)famousMarjory Stoneman Douglas High School. Since it is included in the official school attendance statistics, I thought it would make sense to keep it here. Thoughts?Legionarius 08:35, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * We went through a similar situation on the Fort Lauderdale page, where it was agreed that schools that are not within the city limits are not listed. I think we should stick to the same here, although let's see if we can get something resembling consensus first. This page doesn't get edited all that often, and I don't know how many people (if any) have it on their watch lists. BTW, it might be a good idea to change the notation for Marjory Stoneman Douglas High to "out of city limits" rather than "off-limits", because the latter makes it sound like it is something that is banned... -Horologium t-c 14:14, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I put a footnote explaining the figure, I guess it is a good compromise.Legionarius 16:04, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

(outdent) I just did a little digging through the school maps for Broward County Schools, and I discovered that Westglades Middle School and Park Trails Elementary School, both in Parkland, have the Heron Bay nieghborhood in their attendance areas. Do you know if the school data includes Coral Springs students attending those two schools as well? We might want to create a list page (perhaps List of Schools in Coral Springs, Florida), and include all of the public and private schools in the city, then have a section at the end of the list noting the three Parkland schools that cover a portion of the city. It appears that only the high school has boundaries south of the Sawgrass Expressway (in fact, it has a finger running through the center of the city all the way down to Royal Palm Boulevard, between University Drive and Coral Springs Drive), but Heron Bay is a part of Coral Springs. Horologium t-c 16:32, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think those cities are included, per this. They may even have some people attending Magnets, etc, but the numbers are not significant. MDouglas has 3,044 people, though.Legionarius 16:37, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Trivia
I tagged the trivia section; some of the cites are pretty weak, and some of them belong elsewhere in the article. A new section entitled "Famous residents" could cover the members of New Found Glory, and the signage issue for the original McDonald's at Sample and Woodside could be moved to the introductory paragraph, or a new section discussing the city's history. The strict laws regarding neighborhood appearance, such as the bans on boats and clotheslines, and the exterior paint approval requirements, could easily be developed into a section that would be appropriate for the "Golden Arches" ban. The rest could be quietly deleted and few would notice their absence.

Horologium talk - contrib 07:35, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed.Legionarius 16:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

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Economy
I could not find any good data about the city economy. Any ideas?Legionarius 16:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The Standards & Poors report on the city's bond rating (AAA) is on the city website, here. It's the best of the three bond reports on the site, as it is the most recent. The Moody's report is from 1999, and the Fitch report is from 2003. the S&P is from 2004, and it is well-written and informative. If you need to reference the other two reports, they are here(Moody's, PDF) and here (Fitch, PDF). There is also an external audit of the city's finances from KMPG, available here (PDF; note that the second and third pages of the report are improperly sequenced, they need to be reversed). There is a whole section of the city's website that is dedidated to city finances. Horologium t-c 17:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Added the information to the article. Thanks!Legionarius 18:53, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Coral Springs Medical Center
I removed the statement about Coral Springs Medical Center being in the top 20% of hospitals nationwide because it was incorrect. It is in the 20th percentile, which means it is in the bottom 20 percent. However, I question the methodology used by the cited report, and note that the hospital focuses on obstetrics and neonatal care, which were not the focus of the report. Horologium t-c 23:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, I saw it later. I agree.Legionarius 00:06, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Assessment
I've reassessed this article at 'B' class; it's clearly well beyond 'stub' class right now. Getting close to GA class, but probably needs a good copyedit first. Editors should review the good article criteria, WPCITIES templates, and WP:LEAD for tips on improving the article. Dr. Cash 20:06, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Good Article nomination
Legionarius has done outstanding work expanding and sourcing this article, and I went through and did a lot of copy-editing and format-tweaking, as recommended by Dr. Cash. I have nominated this article for Good Article status. We'll see what others think. Horologium t-c 00:41, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

GA review
I have placed the review on hold. The article is well written and referenced but these need fixing:
 * There shouldn't be anything in the lead not mentioned in the rest of the article. ✅ User:Horologium
 * Full dates and dates with a day and month need to be linked. The same apples to dates in the footnotes. ✅ Fixed. User:Horologium
 * Read Manual of Style (dashes) for the correct use of dashes. ✅ replaced en dashes with em dashes User:Legionarius
 * I don't think "married couples" needs linking.✅ removed link. User:Horologium
 * I don't think Languages needs its own subsection ✅ removed subsection header; merged into demographics. User:Horologium
 * "See also" templates belong at the top of sections. ✅ Moved see also templates to top of sections. User:Horologium
 * Short paragraphs and subsections are discouraged. They need to either be expanded or combined. ✅, except for the introduction, which needs expansion. User:Horologium
 * "The 8,000 square foot Coral Springs Museum of Art" - a citation is needed for the 8,000 square foot part. ✅ Reference added. User:Horologium
 * A "format=PDF" parameter should be added to the citation templates for pdf sources.✅ parameters added. User:Legionarius
 * "Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood media market, which is the twelfth largest radio market and the seventeenth largest television market in the United States." - a citation is needed. ✅ References added. User:Horologium
 * The Famous Natives section would be better as prose, with more info about when they lived in the city.✅ Section removed, natives added in prose form to Sports and Culture sections. User:Horologium
 * "The city's tax rate of 3.8715 mils" - could mils be linked? ✅ Link added. User:Horologium
 * Could the Culture section be expanded by adding landmarks, cinemas etc.? ✅ I think the additions fill the section out sufficiently. User:Horologium

Let me know when these are done. Thanks. Epbr123 09:58, 25 June 2007 (UTC)


 * For the culture section, we could add the Coral Springs History Museum, which is the oldest structure in the city, add a little more information about the covered bridge (the only one on a public road in Florida), and the artwork cited by Legionarius. We don't have to mention the names of the artists, only note that a variety of public and private groups have created art displays around the city. I left the two theaters in for now, but they might be candidates for removal; they're non-notable, and they're not even the oldest theaters in the city. Movie Center III in Royal University Plaza was the first, but it closed in the mid-1980's. There was also a theater in the Charter School when it was still a mall. Horologium t-c 17:21, 25 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Added Information about the two Florida Heritage sites (looks like there WERE some interesting landmarks after all :-) ). Needs to be copyedited. --Legionarius 18:38, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. The only thing left to do now is expand the lede. It was a bit thin before I moved some of the info, so I'm going to try and come up with something a bit more substantial. Horologium t-c 19:10, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I buffed it up a bit. Informing Epbr123 on his talk page, so he can re-evaluate. Horologium t-c 21:23, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Pass! Well done. It doesn't look too far from FA now; just make sure the article is comprehensive, as some sections are slightly short compared to other city articles. Epbr123 21:52, 25 June 2007 (UTC)