Talk:Corneliu Chisu

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2014
The text needs to go under the Background summary :

“He was recently recognized for his work in strengthening the relations between Hungary and Canada by the President of Hungary who conferred upon him the Knights Cross of the Hungarian Order of Merit in 2014.

Source: http://openparliament.ca/debates/2014/6/11/corneliu-chisu-1/only/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.43.232 (talk) 19:35, 13 January 2015 (UTC) http://www.kozlonyok.hu/nkonline/MKPDF/hiteles/MK14055.pdf, page 5522-5524

192.197.82.205 (talk) 19:04, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Provide a reliable media source which verifies this, or it can't go in the article. The purpose of Wikipedia is to summarize media coverage of our article subjects, not to replicate their own campaign brochures — so if you can't provide a media source which properly demonstrates that at least one media outlet covered him being given the award, then it's not something that we're under any obligation to mention. Bearcat (talk) 19:08, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2015
Can I please get permission to add the following under Background Summary:

Corneliu Chisu was recently recognized for his work in strengthening the relations between Hungary and Canada by the President of Hungary who conferred upon him the Knights Cross of the Hungarian Order of Merit in 2014. Sources: http://openparliament.ca/debates/2014/6/11/corneliu-chisu-1/only/ http://www.kozlonyok.hu/nkonline/MKPDF/hiteles/MK14055.pdf; pages 5522-5524.

70.29.43.232 (talk) 15:25, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2015
Can I please get permission to add the following under Background Summary: Corneliu Chisu was recently recognized for his work in strengthening the relations between Hungary and Canada by the President of Hungary who conferred upon him the Knights Cross of the Hungarian Order of Merit in 2014. Sources: http://openparliament.ca/debates/2014/6/11/corneliu-chisu-1/only/ http://www.kozlonyok.hu/nkonline/MKPDF/hiteles/MK14055.pdf; pages 5522-5524.[1] 70.29.43.232 (talk) 15:25, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Pick101 (talk) 16:37, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Sam Sing! 22:24, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2016
He emigrated to Italy in 1981, and to Canada in 1982.. Citation: Employment and Immigration Canada, Record of Landing W010049040 date 26.09.1982

Ceechisu (talk) 17:24, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Same as below: this is not a consultable document that we can access for verification of what it says; it's in your own private personal possession, not in a public archive. References for Wikipedia content need to be to publicly accessible reliable source coverage in media, not to your own private files. Bearcat (talk) 17:40, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2016
In 1989 he was certified as a professional engineer.[citation needed] Citation: Professional Engineers Ontario (PEO) Licence # 90169988

Ceechisu (talk) 17:30, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Your license isn't a consultable document that we can pull up anywhere to look at for verification purposes, so it's not a suitable reference. The reference for it needs to be to publicly accessible media coverage, not personal documents that you have in your private possession. Bearcat (talk) 17:39, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

tDear Bearcat,

Please be advised that an Engineer licence is of a public domain. Anybody can request the licence for a person who claims to be a professional engineer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ceechisu (talk • contribs) 17:57, 24 February 2016 (UTC)


 * User:Bearcat http://forum.peo.on.ca/cgi-bin/EPIM_Search/EPIM_Form_Search.do -- First field: Chisu; Second field: Corneliu; Third: 90169988; check the box at the bottom of the form, and submit. --BurritoBazooka (talk) 06:39, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ --BurritoBazooka (talk) 02:15, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2016
He also acted for several years as the honorary consul of the Republic of Moldova in Toronto. He was recognized for his work by the President of Moldova, who conferred on him the Medal of Civic Merit in 2012.[citation needed] Citation: Canada Gazette Part 1, Vol.147,No.35, August 31, 2013 page 2058 Government House, Awards to Canadians (http://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2013/2013-08-31/pdf/g1-14735.pdf)

Ceechisu (talk) 17:45, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The supplied reference say the Chisu received the award but does not say what it was for. EncyclopediaUpdaticus (talk) 11:35, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I have translated a second reference given to me by the original poster of this thread User:Ceechisu. The reference is at: http://www.ssmexpert.md/_ld/50/5062_212-215_12_10_2.pdf and is written in Moldovan. I have (carefully) used the Romanian machine translator of Google Translate to translate the relevant content into English.
 * From decree 692 of that PDF file:
 * "Pentru contribuţie substanţială la dezvoltarea şi aprofundarea relaţiilor de prietenie şi colaborare moldo-canadiene, asistenţa şi protecţia consulară acordată cetăţenilor moldoveni, domnului Corneliu CHIŞU, deputat în Parlamentul Canadei, ex-consul onorific al Republicii Moldova în Canada, i se conferă medalia „Meritul Civic”."
 * To:
 * "For his substantial contribution to the development and deepening of Moldovan-Canadian friendship and cooperation, assistance and consular protection granted to Moldovan citizens, Mr. Corneliu Chisu, Member of Parliament of Canada, former honorary consul of the Republic of Moldova, is conferred the Civic Merit Medal."
 * It can be inferred that Chisu was awarded the Civic Merit Medal for diplomatic services. Hope this helps. I hope Ceechisu would reply to this and confirm the translation, though they might place their message at the top of the page or on one of our talk pages instead of here where my message is.
 * edit: Here is a slightly more reliable URL, which is from the domain name of the agency which publishes the government's official gazette. PDF download top right: http://portal.moldpres.md/MO/default.asp?PageLang=ro&Numar=212-215&CalDay=2012-10-12&CalDate=102012&path=212-215_12_10_2012ro.pdf
 * Any other copies can probably be found by searching: MONITORUL OFICIAL AL REPUBLICII MOLDOVA 12 octombrie 2012
 * --BurritoBazooka (talk) 05:45, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅, no reply from other editors, consensus was assumed. --BurritoBazooka (talk) 01:25, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2016
He emigrated to Italy in 1981, and to Canada in 1982.[citation needed] Citation: Toronto Star, Saturday, July 1, 1989 and Monday December 11, 1989

Ceechisu (talk) 18:19, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The Toronto Star article from July 1, 1989 (see next section) does not mention Chisu's immigration history. EncyclopediaUpdaticus (talk) 11:38, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If you can provide another source, please reopen, or create a new request. Please also be aware that you should be able to perform the edit yourself now. -- The Voidwalker  Discuss 01:44, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2016
In 1989 he was certified as a professional engineer.[citation needed] Citation; Toronto Star, Saturday July 1, 1989 and Toronto Star, Monday December 11, 1989

Ceechisu (talk) 18:21, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, do you have a copy of these at all? Stickee (talk) 23:36, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you give a page reference for these two newspaper issues. EncyclopediaUpdaticus (talk) 02:26, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

This is the text from the Toronto Star (exerpted through Proquest news database) {Reference: Untapped talents, Educated immigrants find professions wasted in land of opportunity: [SA2 Edition] Nancy J. White Toronto Star. Toronto Star [Toronto, Ont] 01 July 1989: F1,F3}

Corneliu Chisu refuses to give up. "I want to use my skills at their maximum potential," insists the 40-year-old electrical engineer from Romania.

The Association of Professional Engineers of Ontario, the licensing body, doesn't recognize foreign diplomas. So Chisu enrolled at the University of Toronto for a master's degree in engineering. He worked as an analyst at the Italian Trade Commission by day, and went to school at night.

In November, 1988, he received his master's degree, but when he applied for a licence, he was turned down, he says, because he didn't have a bachelor's degree from Canada.

"It was necessary to protest with very heavy documentation," he says. "I made a very strong case." Eventually, he was allowed to apply to take the licensing exam.

(According to the association, an applicant for the licensing exam without a Canadian bachelor's degree must take technical examinations or convince a committee in an oral exam of knowledge equivalent to a bachelor's degree.)

He then requested an iron ring, a symbol for Canadian engineers. He was refused, he says, because he hadn't taken ethics and law courses, which are given on an undergraduate level.

"It's a very small thing, but it's a question of pride and of being a Canadian," says Chisu, who has become a citizen. He can re- apply after he's passed his licensing exam.

For five years - even before he got his Canadian degree - he's looked for jobs in his specialty, electrical engineering, but has received only negative answers. He thinks people are afraid he's a spy.

"I can not change my birthplace," says Chisu. "You're considered a second-class citizen because you're born in Eastern Europe."

Chisu, however, remains hopeful. "I want to be integrated in the Canadian way of life," he says. "I will persevere."

This reference says that Chisu took a licencing exam but does not actually say that he was certified as a PEng. My search did not turn up the December 11, 1989 issue but I have access to the full paper for that day. I just need a page reference. EncyclopediaUpdaticus (talk) 11:33, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Another article I found {Retired major brings know-how, experience to role in Parliament, The Globe and Mail (1936-Current); Nov 1, 2012; ProQuest Historical Newspapers: The Globe and Mail, pg. OPEA2} shows Chisu with a P.Eng. designation after his name and goes on to say that he served as vice-president of the Professional Engineers Ontario. EncyclopediaUpdaticus (talk) 11:46, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Reference has been added for the text in question. -- The Voidwalker  Discuss 01:42, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 September 2021
Military section suggests he is a sitting MP, which he is not. 198.52.180.78 (talk) 21:27, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ — IVORK Talk 00:17, 8 September 2021 (UTC)