Talk:Cornish people/GA1

GA Review
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I will presently begin reviewing this article and make straightforward changes as I go (explanations in edit summaries). Please revert any changes I make where I inadvertently change the meaning. I will post queries below. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:18, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


 *  Both "geographic and historical factors distinguish the Cornish as an ethnic group" - another way of saying this without resorting to quotes?
 * --I have attempted a fix to this with this diff. --Jza84 | Talk  13:14, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ditto with any others in the  Classification section, although I do concede for some it is well-nigh impossible :)


 * '' Traditional accounts of the ancestral roots of the Cornish - in the interests of succinctness I was trying to think of one word to replace the bolded two...
 * --I have attempted a fix to this with this diff. --Jza84 | Talk  13:14, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


 * who derived from... - looks odd in active tense
 * --I think I fixed this with this diff. --Jza84 | Talk  19:29, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 *  Methodism, the then main form of religious practice for the Cornish, was held with strong conviction by the Cornish, encouraging Methodist sensibilities in a direct rivalry with Catholic Irish people in Australia - need to rephrase to reduce repetition. I am musing on this one - tricky.
 * --I have attempted a fix to this with this diff. --Jza84 | Talk  13:14, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


 * A restored living modern language, most Cornish speakers are enthusiasts, persons who have learned the language through private study - flow issues as the subject changes between the first and subsequent clauses.
 * --I think I fixed this with this diff. --Jza84 | Talk  19:29, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Daily life in Cornwall therefore is conducted in the English language, albeit with some regional peculiarities - rather than leaving this as an easter egg link, I think a few of the most prominent cornish expressions would be good to mention here.


 * My impression was that Methodism was pretty prominent, and may deserve more than one line in the  Religion section (?) Prevalence or some other info?


 * As far as the GA criteria go...

1. Well written?:
 * Prose quality:
 * Manual of Style compliance:

2. Factually accurate and verifiable?:
 * References to sources:
 * Citations to reliable sources, where required:
 * No original research:

3. Broad in coverage?:
 * Major aspects:
 * Focused:

4. Reflects a neutral point of view?:
 * Fair representation without bias:

5. Reasonably stable?
 * No edit wars, etc. (Vandalism does not count against GA):

6. Illustrated by images, when possible and appropriate?:
 * Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * A couple of images need WP:ALT text. I need to sleep now.

Overall:
 * Pass or Fail: (just about...)

The above suggestions are not deal-breakers. I'll adjust it to a GA when we fix up the last couple of images -the suggestions are more of a shove towards FAC :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:18, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll try fix the last few, but some are "near impossible", but others (like the list of local words) will need someone with local knowledge. I aim to finish the last few ALTs tonight. --Jza84 | Talk  17:14, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That's cool. It's going well. I just thought a word or two'd give it a little colour. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:57, 13 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Perhaps some of these would add the local colour. List of Cornish dialect words: selections

--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 06:13, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Bal or Wheal - traditional Cornish words for a mine, e.g Bal maiden; Wheal Jane
 * Cloam - Crockery, pottery, earthenware, e.g "cloam oven" an old type of housefold oven
 * Crib - a mid-morning break for a snack (see below also)
 * Crowst - a mid-morning break for a snack
 * Dreckly - soon, but not necessarily immediately - like "mañana", but less urgent, as in "Cornishmen do it dreckly"
 * Maid - girl, girl-friend
 * Proper - satisfactory, as in "Proper job!" = very good
 * Scat - to hit or break "Scat abroad = Smashed up"
 * Great stuff. Just 4 or 5 main ones should do it I imagine, but we need a reference. :S --Jza84 | Talk  10:44, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Meh, we can leave that for FAC I think then - thus the two (non-deal-breaker) potential content improvements I see as left over from the above for FAC to be (i) a couple of the best known cornish words, and (ii) A sentence or two on the current prevalence of methodism (census figures maybe??). Otherwise we're good to go methinks...Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:09, 17 October 2009 (UTC)