Talk:Corps de l'armement

Title Corps of Armament (France) or Corps de l'armement
The initial title "Corps of Armament (France)" was proposed in analogy with Corps of Mines (France), Corps of Bridges and Roads (France), Corps of Telecommunications (France), which are comparable technical Grand Corps of the French State.

Other administrative Grand Corps of the French State are Council of State (France), Court of Audit (France), and General Inspection of Finances (France).

Designations in French are : "Corps de l'armement", Corps des mines, Corps des ponts,Corps des télécom, Cour des comptes,...

The new title "Corps of Armament Engineers" is ambiguous : it could be from any country !

Therefore I propose either "Corps of Armament (France)" or "Corps de l'armement".

The concept of Grand Corps of the State is very French and hardly understandable in the US, the UK, or Germany. Amazingly enough, it is more familiar to Chinese or to Japanese people, as it is explained in the article.

That is why this article engendered other articles : Grand Corps of the French State, High tech Colbertism,... Euroflux (talk) 18:18, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * J'ai utilisé "engineers" car la version française indique « Le corps des ingénieurs de l'armement (en abrégé : IA) ».
 * Je vois que vous venez d'ajouter des liens rouges (avec et  ) aux mots comme "Corps of Armament (France)" ("corps de l'armement" or "corps des ingénieurs de l'armement"). Je déconseille y mettre les redirection qui rétournera simplement ici (alors une #REDIRECT circulaire). On doit faire des liens uniquement pour se diriger ultimement à une page autre que la page qu'on est déjà en train de lire maintenant. K7L (talk) 00:19, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

The whole series or articles stemming from "Corps de l'armement"
This my very first article on Wikipedia.

This article gave rise to a certain number of articles listed below.

In particular, the "notable" Armament engineers.

I created as well an article trying to explain the very French feature of "Grand Corps of the State" which may originate from China and is hardly understandable by other Western nations.

"Corps de l'armement" illustrates a specific phenomenon of High tech Colbertism which has been studied by the French economist Elie Cohen.

The most "notable" member of the "Corps de l'armement" is probably Jean-Paul Herteman, CEO of Safran, Chairman of the GIFAS (and of the "Europezn" GIFAS, and Vice-Chairman of the Conseil général de l'armement.

Jean-Paul Herteman has already a page on fr:WP, but not yet on the English WP. Amazingly enough, Jean-Paul Herteman disposes of a lot of sources in French and in English, but the article was rejected twice. This talk page is the right place to duscuss and try to improve the article.


 * C'est complètement légitime de faire des traductions du Wikipédia (fr:) vers la Wikipedia anglaise, mais il faut indiquer dans l'historique de la page la source du texte originale "translated from fr:...page...". doit devenir infobox person en version anglaise; voir infobox person pour la liste des données pour la bôite aux infos de biographie. K7L (talk) 20:54, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Mes articles ne sont pas des traductions ; j'ai mes propres donnees ; le plan de mes articles est different ; ce qui est "evident" dans un article francophone pour un public francais doit etre explique dans l article anglophone... Euroflux (talk) 08:48, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

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