Talk:Corruption in Spain

= Digital TV corruption (TDT-PARTY) = Please, can somebody add the Digital TV corruption, also called "TDT-Party"?

FAR-RIGHTED MEDIA COUP D'ETAT IN SPAIN (2009-2012): Regional private far-righted National Catholicism tv channel of Catholic Church, TV Mediterráneo instead.
 * Neutral CNN+ censored, Big brother instead.
 * Leftist laSexta bought by conservative Monopoly Atresmedia. In extincion.
 * Center-righted Cuatro bought by conservative Monopoly Mediaset (Berlusconi) In extincion.
 * Neutral Regional private TV network Localia TV censored.
 * Righted Regional PUBLIC TV channels are manipulated or censored (like Telemadrid or the COUP of closing of Canal Nou, valencian PUBLIC tv channel that suffered a COUP broadcasted LIVE).
 * Center-left media group PRISA sunk and parts sold with intention of be chopped.

FAR-RIGHTED MEDIA COUP D'ETAT IN SPAIN (2012-2015): Most of local journalists are jobless.
 * Once left media is banned and censored, the next target is moderate conservative media. MEDIA COUP D'ETAT II (2012-2015) begins with a moderate conservative media director Pedro J. Ramírez (moderate conservative newspaper El Mundo) HAS BEEN FIRED DUE TO HIS INVESTIGATIONS OF CONSERVATIVE BRUTAL CORRUPPTION IN SPAIN.
 * New tv channels of extreme far-right and fascism with insults, racism, homophobic, workerphobic, and HATE like Intereconomía TV, 13 TV (Catholic Church Far-Righted HATE tv channel), Popular TV, etc...
 * Al local TV channels are censored, only far-right opinion tv channels or the advertising channels, etc... can broadcast.
 * BEST Journalists of Spain are jobless, making vblogs or forgotten like Iñaki Gabilondo, Jordi Évole, Jon Sistiaga, etc...

Consecuences of the FAR-RIGHTED MEDIA COUP D'ETAT IN SPAIN 2009-2015:
 * Rise of fascism and nazism in schools, depressed neighbourhoods.
 * Unemployment, corrupption, nazism, hate, riots. BUT ELECTIONS IN SPAIN are the same results FOREVER. Is Dangerous.
 * No education, no information media, no jobs: fertile ground for a war in Catalonia that is close.

--Unsigned by 178.170.111.13


 * Care to share a comprehensive source that ties any combination of such issues together? Thank you! --Houjou (talk) 22:36, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Are we allowing comments like the upper one?
This is a encyclopedia, not a forum for writing falsehoods and insults to everybody. Asturkian (talk) 11:39, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

How is this article biased?
Someone added a cleanup tag to this article a few years ago, but the reason for this is still not clear. Can anyone explain the reason for this cleanup tag? Jarble (talk) 17:02, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

I find that the spanish dictatorship achievements are biased or directly not true:

During his time, Spanish people started at last to create a middle class an economic prosperity as never before in Spanish history, he created the first social security system, pension retirement and security was totally assured to the Spanish population
 * 1) We have to wait until 1960 for achiving the same GDP per capita that we had before the civil war. All these years Spain was an autarky and it was constantly in economic crisis.
 * 2) The first social public securty system was created in 1931 with the II Spanish Republic. Franco once in power repeal it and creates it's own social security law in 1945 (after second world war and because he had to give the impression to be in charge in a less authocratic way) and didn't covered all the population as the one before. We have to wait until 1963 for having something similar to the 1931 social security program.
 * 3) The first mandatory retirement insurance (retiro obrero obligatorio) was introduced in 1919 for private-sector employees aged sixteen to sixty-five whose total annual salary was below a certain threshold. In 1926,a universal pension system for public employees (Régimen de Clases Pasivas) was established, providing a minimum pension. Was remained unchanged until 1939 with Franco in power.UriJ (talk) 10:32, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

It is very simple, the article is not neutral, it is badly written and of typical low grade. This article is very biased due to the omission of corruption during the decade of 1980 under the successive Socialist governments, national and regional. The truth is, sadly, Spain is well known for being an incredibly corrupt society in general, not just politicians and business people. This must also be reflected, and it is not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.73.101.79 (talk) 12:08, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Additionally, there are irrelevant overtones of complete lack of factual knowledge when people who were not alive during some of the controversial periods of Spanish history, take the liberty to publish opinions based on stories heard from their grandparents. This is mistakenly called the collective memory of the Spaniards, which should be called instead selective and manipulative memory of the Spaniards.

The XX century was unkind to all peoples and nations, there is nothing especial about the history of Spain during those periods, nothing so exceptional that justifies such a lingering level of hate of imaginary institutions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.73.101.79 (talk) 12:12, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

There are almost just corruption cases of the conservative party (PP). If you open the spanish version of the article you will see there is a plethora of corruption cases linked to the Socialist party: flick, filesa, Roldan, Salanueva, Ave, Amy Martin... or to nationalists parties: Campeón, Puyol, ITV... Some of them of really big dimensions, or even linked to organized crime and they are not even mentioned. On the other hand the case "Privatisations" is just preposterous, most of it are just weasel words or just not true. Maybe that's the reason there is no mention to it at all in the spanish version. Felipe Gonzalez started in 1982 privatising public companies (about 80), then Jose Maria Aznar continued them (50) as Zapatero did. Aznar created a golden share to have Veto powers in strategical former state owned companies (like the german government in Volkswagen among others) and the european cort of justice ruled it was against free competition. No corruption whatsoever. In 2012 the region of Madrid wanted to extenalize just the hospital management of several hospitals but this plan was backed out A public doctors associations complained afterwards and the case was dismissed by a judge. But it has nothing to do with Aznar privatising state owned companies in the late 90s     MateoSag (talk) 10:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Citation of Turkey Telegraph
Footnote 23 links to the "Turkey Telegraph". Does this need its own page? How do we know it's a reliable source?