Talk:Cossara

The name Kosara is used in: (French) Adontz, Nicholas (1965). "Samuel l'Armenien, Roi des Bulgares". Études Arméno-Byzantines. Lisbonne: Livraria Bertrand, p.395.

In the article “Agatha, wife of Samuil”: “According to the Byzantine historian John Scylitzes Agatha was born in …” The source please?
 * Γαβριήλ ὁ και Ῥωμανὸς...., τεχθεὶς τῷ Σαμουηλ ἐξ  Άγάθης τῆς  θυγατρὸς Ὶωάννου τοῦ Χρυσηλιου τοῦ εν Δυρραχιῳ πρωτεὺοντος [Gavril, who was called also Roman,.. he was son of Samuil by Agatha, the daughter of John Chrisilius, governor of Dyrrhachion] - John Skylitzes. Vindobonensis historia.74. 13-14 c. --Nauka (talk) 08:38, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

The primary source which confirms Agatha’s parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Skylitzes is not an entirely reliable copyist. K. Ali 02:01, 11 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Karim Ali (talk • contribs)

His name and his heresy drive us towards the middle of the Armenians Paulicians
I'm possibly being dense, but I don't understand this sentence at all. Can it be explained? Pseudomonas(talk) 12:34, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

There is no contradiction
According Bishop Mikhail Devolski (XII century), who wrote remarks to the chronicle of John Skylitzes, Agatha was the second wife of Samuel. The articles Agatha, wife of Samuel and Kosara of Bulgaria refers to different persons. K. Ali 00:58, 18 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Karim Ali (talk • contribs)
 * But how come then can these two persons have the same issue:
 * Theodora Kosara
 * Miroslava
 * Gavril Radomir
 * Only Katun Anastazya differs in that it is named as the issue of Agatha, but not of Kosara.
 * As far as the merge template is concerned, I'm sorry if I hurried the process and neglected the discussion on the topic. However, either the texts of these two article contradict each other, or they are about the same person, or some other unknown information isn't included in the articles. All the best, --Biblbroks 's talk 21:24, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Agatha, Samuel’s second wife, was the step mother of Samuel’s children. The number of children that Samuel had and their mother is still to be clarified. Agatha and Kosara are two completely different individuals in Samuel’s life. As such, the two articles cannot be combined. K. Ali 07:55, 23 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Karim Ali (talk • contribs)


 * Well, the Prosopographie der mittelbyzantinischen Zeit begs to differ. It lists only Agatha as Samuel's wife and the mother of his children, and only one Kosara, who furthermore was neither a wife nor a daughter of Samuel, but of a relative of his, a certain Theodoritos. Given that the explanation on the apparent confusion in the PmbZ is quite straight-forward, and that the caliber of this work is beyond reproach, I am making the relevant corrections. Constantine  ✍  15:32, 21 November 2014 (UTC)