Talk:Country Mile (Johnny Flynn album)

Requested move 09 December 2015

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The result of the move request was: NOT MOVED. TheJack15 (talk) 11:24, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Country Mile (Johnny Flynn album) → Country Mile – Revert recent undiscussed move. – Dohn joe (talk) 18:45, 9 December 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:51, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:46, 9 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose: see Country Mile (disambiguation) (18 meanings). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:46, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose what evidence is there that this non-charting independent 2013 folk album is more notable than everything else on Country Mile (disambiguation) combined? It was created at Country Mile (album) so evidently the article creator knew it wasn't the only topic.And please restore dabpage back to Country Mile 9 December 2015‎ Dohn joe (Dohn joe moved page Country Mile to Country Mile (disambiguation) prep to redirect base name to primary topic)  In ictu oculi (talk) 23:55, 9 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Support. Procedurally, this should already have been done, as a revert of In ictu's recent undiscussed move:
 * (cur | prev) 08:01, 9 December 2015‎ In ictu oculi (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (2,582 bytes) (0)‎ . . (In ictu oculi moved page Country Mile to Country Mile (Johnny Flynn album)) (undo | thank)
 * Substantively, we have WP:NCCAPS, which says, in bold, "Do not capitalize the second or subsequent words in an article title, unless the title is a proper name." So we ignore the idiom for this purpose. Looking at only things called "Country Mile", there is one WP article: this album. It may not be groundbreaking, but it is the only notable subject with this name on WP. Further, the onus should be on the person wanting to make the move. Dohn joe (talk) 14:56, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Remember that this was originally at Country Mile (album), not at the Country Mile baseline, it was moved there by WP:MOVE I moved it back again by WP:MOVE (where's the sin there?) but adding Johnny Flynn since "singer Ernie Smith" is far more notable in Google Books. If this was a Madonna album, fine, no doubt it would displace all other meanings, but this is an unsourced non-charting album stub which even the article creator did not consider should be the absolute majority topic. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:18, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Lots of article creators don't understand WP titling policy (this article was created on the second day of this editor's history). When we have but one article at a title, there is rarely a need to disambiguate it. Dohn joe (talk) 22:47, 10 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose per WP:NCM. There is now an article for Country Mile (Ernie Smith album).--Richhoncho (talk) 09:24, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Support. Just since the move, Country Mile (Johnny Flynn album) has several times the views of the newly created Country Mile (Ernie Smith album). It recieved many more than that prior to the move.. It should be restored to the status quo.--Cúchullain t/ c 18:50, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * That was only a recent undiscussed "status quo" given that it had (album) for 8 months. As always with primary topic a balance has to be made between page views (which are the result of what we offer, not of what is truly sought) and what is in Google Books. This album is barely notable, not enough to be more notable than all other subjects combined. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:41, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * As always with primary topic, we only worry about subjects covered on Wikipedia. The Flynn album greatly outpaces all those, most of which have nothing more than a mention at the linked article. I'm finding hundreds of Google News and archive hits and 49 books compared to few if any relevant hits for the Ernie Smith album. This, combined with the fact that it receives several times the page views, demonstrates it's the primary topic.
 * As for the status quo, the article had been at "Country Mile" for a year and a half The Flynn album also greatly outpaces ] until you moved it last week.--Cúchullain t/ c 14:56, 18 December 2015 (UTC)


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