Talk:County of Sponheim

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Translating Vordere Grafschaft and Hintere Grafschaft as the Front County and Rear County is not good English. Vorpommern and Hinterpommern are traditionally named in English Hither Pomerania and Further Pomerania. The names make sense if you were a sailor coming from England since Vorpommern is nearer and Hinterpommern is farther away. (Hither in this case means Nearer. I would not suggest using Hither since it no longer has currency as a geographic direction.) I would recommend that the Vordere Grafschaft Sponheim be translated as the County of Nearer Sponheim and Hintere Grafschaft Sponheim as the County of Farther Sponheim. It makes more sense to me that the location be modified by the adjectives rather than County, since I do not know of a English usage which modifies County in this manner. My problem is that, ultimately, I cannot determine from what point the Counts of Sponheim were measuring nearer and farther. Lakaiser (talk) 02:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * From Mainz, if I remember correclty. -- Blueduck4711 (talk) 22:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I know it's a bit of a late response, but I always render them as the “Further” County of Sponheim and the “Hinder” County of Sponheim. The former at least has a precedent in "Further Austria".Kelisi (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Literature

 * Der durchleuchtigstenn durchleuchtigen hochgebornen Fürsten und herren herrn ludwigs des heiligen Römischen Reichs Ertsdruchsetzen un Churfürsten herrn Johansen beden Phaltzgraue bei Reine Hertzogen in Beyern Graue zu Spanheym und herrn Philipsen Marggrauen zu Baden gemeinordnug : irer gnaden Houegerichts zu Creutzenach. ... Simmern : Rodler, 1530
 * Der Durchleuchtigen Hochgebornen beider Fürsten Graven zu Spanheim Undergerichts-Ordnung in dero Fürstlichen Gnaden Hindern Gravenschofft Spanheim, Speyer, 1544 [VD16 P 2262 (Digitale Bibliothek - Münchener Digitalisierungszentrum) ]
 * Hoffgerichts Ordnung der Hindern Graffschafft Spanheim (Universitätsbibliothek Kiel - alte Drucke bis 1800). Franckfurt am Mayn : Spies, 1587
 * Hermes, oder, Kritisches Jahrbuch der Literatur, 31. Band. Die sponheimische Successionssache. F.A. Brockhaus, 1828
 * Romeo Maurenbrecher: Die rheinpreussischen landrechte, 2. Band. Das Landrecht der hintern Graffschaft Sponheim. E. Weber, 1831
 * http://www.dilibri.de/sru?query=spanheim&searchtype=combined&mode=view&operation=searchRetrieve, http://www.dilibri.de/sru?query=spanheym&searchtype=combined&mode=view&operation=searchRetrieve

--Fhmann (talk) 20:28, 24 August 2009 (UTC)