Talk:Courtney Stodden/Archive 1

Notability
Why doesnt she have her own page yet?

She's way more notable than he is now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.223.15.26 (talk) 14:00, May 22, 2012‎


 * Why an article for a silicone bimbo who is known for nothing else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:45:4905:A135:DCC2:C9B0:BD19:A23F (talk) 14:37, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Why? Avocats (talk) 18:46, 1 September 2016 (UTC)


 * See Notability (people). Nightscream (talk) 03:59, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Notoriety for style of dress
One need only read the Daily Mail articles referring to her style of dress to correctly and reasonably infer that she is notorious for it. (notorious: generally known and talked of; especially : widely and unfavorably known)

Quote 1

"The 18-year-old donned yet another skimpy outfit and her signature towering heels for a visit to a costume shop in Hollywood last week with 52-year-old husband Doug Hutchison."

Quote 2

"Going to extremes: Courtney Stodden wore an outfit that appeared to be better suited for stripping than shopping, last week in Hollywood with husband Doug Hutchison."

These quotes describe the epitome of notoriety for wearing revealing/skimpy and inappropriate-for-the-moment clothes. Azx2 02:57, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * That source is not remotely good enough for a BLP, it's just the Daily Mail's excuse to perv over an 18-year-old girl in skimpy clothing. I'm removing the sentence until you find a better one. Robofish (talk) 23:20, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem isn't with the source, it's that it doesn't make the claim of notoriety ... inferences by editors are not proper article content. -- 70.109.46.5 (talk) 21:01, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Devout Christianity?
Really? Has anyone who wrote this article actually taken a look at this oversexed teen? Maybe that part of the article should be rethought, reworded or taken out all together? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.137.23.199 (talk) 03:37, 9 June 2013 (UTC)


 * The characterization in question comes from her mother, Krista, speaking in two episodes of Couples Therapy, which are properly cited at the end of that passage, per WP:V a nd WP:CS. The characterization is in quotes precisely in order to indicate its attribution to that source, and therefore does not represent my personal description, nor one in Wikipedia's voice. Nightscream (talk) 15:30, 9 June 2013 (UTC)


 * There are devout Christians who lie, steal, cheat, murder, and bugger young boys, and those things are actually forbidden, whereas being sexy or sexual are not. If you have a legitimate reason to change the article, based on something beyond your personal opinion of some inconsistency with how she looks and being a devout Christian, do share it. -- 70.109.46.5 (talk) 20:52, 10 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Nice interpretation LOL
 * --2001:4898:80E8:0:0:0:0:3E1 (talk) 22:13, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
 * --2001:4898:80E8:0:0:0:0:3E1 (talk) 22:13, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

texas or washington
born in texas or washington guys? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.241.26.8 (talk) 02:09, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 13 May 2021
Hiya, there's quite a few places in this article where Courtney is quoted as referring to themselves at "we". They use singular they pronouns. I got about half way through correcting it before the protection of the article got changed. All of the references of these quotes show them using "I" Shner314 (talk) 02:35, 13 May 2021 (UTC) Shner314 (talk) 02:35, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done I fixed the one I found. If there are others please list the exact prose so someone can find it in the prose. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:01, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Use of singular they pronouns and article readability
This article is ridiculous to try and read, especially for poor non-native English speakers. Anybody would think Courtney Stodden is some Jekyll/Hyde character that has more than one personality. Fine if the article should mention that she chooses to use certain pronouns that don't conform to the standard definitions in the English language, but to use those non-standard definitions throughout what is supposed to be an objective article on a minor 'celebrity', is ludicrous. (2A02:C7C:120F:DB00:B171:FF1B:ADF6:EBFE (talk) 23:24, 3 June 2021 (UTC))


 * Anyone who can't deal with Singular they pronouns should not bother to comment on en.wiki Talk pages, IMO. Newimpartial (talk) 00:14, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * You didn't answer my point. This article is confusing enough for native English speakers nevermind non-native speakers. Take this sentence for example.


 * >> They have two sisters, Ashley and Brittany, who were 9 and 11 at the time of their birth.


 * Very confusing. Somebody might think Courtney Stodden was some sort of Siamese twin here. (149.86.66.75 (talk) 12:45, 4 June 2021 (UTC))


 * Read the banner at the top of the talk page and cease this at once. Pronouns are non-negotiable.--Pokelova (talk) 13:00, 4 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Frankly, I'm not interested enough in such a trivial article to fight this battle, but wikipedia is a concensus website, so nothing should be non-negotiable. (149.86.65.10 (talk) 14:42, 4 June 2021 (UTC))


 * "Very confusing. Somebody might think Courtney Stodden was some sort of Siamese twin here."


 * Yeah, really. They have to read that sentence at the bottom of the Lead section to understand what was going on, and we can't expect people to do that. What do they think this is? An encyclopedia, or something? Nightscream (talk) 01:28, 5 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Yeah, let's make it harder to read articles than easier. That should be the goal of every true Wikipedian (2A02:C7C:120F:DB00:44B3:2FD0:667E:38B3 (talk) 08:27, 5 June 2021 (UTC))


 * I believe I have fixed the sentence in question above. Are there any other issues? Newimpartial (talk) 22:41, 10 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Readability, like any other principle or idea, is weighed against all others. Apparently Wikipedia has decided that respecting the self-determination and humanity of non-binary persons in their desire to determine their own gender identity is more important than any confusion created by the use of such pronouns, which is is trivial in degree. Bottom line: The degree to which the article becomes harder to read by using those pronouns is minor. Nightscream (talk) 16:19, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2021
Please change all sentences from "I" to "we" in order to be consistent with singular they, for example: Thanks. 182.1.26.164 (talk) 13:29, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * "I am a Christian girl. It may come as a surprise to some people that I support gay marriage. I believe wholeheartedly in "Do not judge others." Change it to
 * "We a Christian girl. It may come as a surprise to some people that we support gay marriage. We believe wholeheartedly in "Do not judge others."
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Singular they is still singular, and does not commonly include nosism. &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 14:25, 7 June 2021 (UTC)