Talk:Coutts/Archives/2014

Bank location

 * Please correct references to the London location. The bank is on the Strand (not just "Strand") LimeyDi (talk) 12:46, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

The road is Strand, NOT The Strand and their address (as clearly seen in their cheque books) is 440, Strand, London WC2R 0QS. Manxwoman (talk) 14:36, 4 September 2013 (UTC)


 * "on the Strand" is common usage, and "on Strand" sounds like how someone unfamiliar with London would say it - David Gerard (talk) 14:57, 4 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Even Wiki agrees that it is Strand and I can always tell if someone is from out of London if they DO call it The Strand! I think that their own website is the definitive (if you don't agree about their cheque books) and we should accept that:


 * See Aldwych as well. Another London street with no "The" in front of it. Manxwoman (talk) 19:40, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * "Let's all go down the Strand! (Have a banana)". And there's Edward Lear: "He rushed down the Strand with a pig in each hand." Then there's Conan Doyle ("The Resident Patient"): "For three hours we strolled about together, watching the ever-changing kaleidoscope of life as it ebbs and flows through Fleet Street and the Strand." Charles Dickens also used the definite article: "Rose read the address, which was Craven Street, in the Strand". But turning from literature to works of record and reference, The Times customarily calls the street "the Strand". Then, the Oxford English Dictionary also uses the article: "the Strand: the name of a street in London; originally so called as occupying, with the gardens belonging to the houses, the 'strand' or shore of the Thames between the cities of London and Westminster." In fact the misunderstanding of the facts in the paragraphs above this can be remedied by recourse to the Survey of London, here: the street is referred to as "the Strand", but addresses omit the article: "The house No. 217, Strand, now a branch of the London and Westminster Joint-Stock Bank". Hence the Coutts webpage. Describing the location we should (as we do in the Wikipedia article) follow the universal way of referring to the thoroughfare as "the Strand". We should also, in my submission, as it is an article about a building in England not America, use the idiomatic British "in the Strand", and not the Americanism "on the Strand". Happily, The Times has not (yet) succumbed to the American variant, and nor, I believe, should we, so far as articles written in BrEng are concerned. –   Tim riley  talk    15:52, 26 May 2014 (UTC)