Talk:Cowboy boot

Lucchese boots
Can anyone else confirm if what most people now recognise as the "cowboy boot" was in fact first developed by Sam Lucchese? I believe that his first Italian inspired designs are infact the roots of the original "cowboy boot" as we know it today. I think its worthy mentioning his company in history, as from my research, it appears this design originated in 1883, and they even named a product line of their boots after this year. I dont want the article to sound like an advertisement, but i strongly believe that his company was the first with this design. They still use machinery and sewing machines that date well back into the 1800's to make their boots also. Any research on this would be great, as i feel its pretty noteworthy, i believe that for some time they have made boots for each new US president, but i need to find more sources to back this up. --Nzoomed (talk) 08:04, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
 * If you locate verifiable, third-party sources that meet WP:RS andWP:V, worth discussing further. Our own research, unfortunately, is considered "roiginal research" and not able to be used on wikipedia.  Montanabw (talk)  00:04, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, sounds good, I think most of the information i got was from watching a factory video they had on their website. Would be good to find more sources, but Lucchese is definitely a noteworthy brand to mention here. --Nzoomed (talk) 21:20, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Dubious
Their ability to stand this test of time has often depended on their ability to understand the human foot and how to keep people's feet happy.

Even if this sentence is sourced, it pretty unencyclopedic. Keeping "people's feet happy"? This sounds more like a modern shoe advertisement. Also, there are other factors that could lead to the longevity of a business, including business acumen, growth in demand, or an overall strong business plan ("organic growth"), or acquisitions and mergers. Ufwuct 21:44, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Dubious history
The cowboy boot was a Mexican invention and came to the US with the Mexican vaqueros, who, following the various annexations of Mexican territory, continued to live in what became the US-states Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California, etc. and later constituted the majority of so-called cowboys working on the cattle trails to the Kansas railheads. Just like the so-called cowboy hat, this style of boot was widespread in Mexico (esp. in Jalisco and Michoacán) long before it was known in the US. If I find a good source, I will definitively change this passage, as it represents just another attempt to wipe out the Mexican origins of what is supposed to be originally US culture. Jinmex 21:09, 13 March 2007 (UTC). Found it in Howard Zinn. Jinmex 17:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

the cowboy boot didn't evolve until the late 19th century, well after the annexations of mexican territory. They evolved from the hessian and/or wellington boots, which predate the annexations. In any event, they are certainly not natively spanish or mexican. See http://www.shoeinfonet.com/about%20shoes/history/history%20western%20boots/history%20western%20boots.htm


 * The pointy toes and fancy stitching might be of Mexican origin, but high boots were worn in Anglo-American culture much earlier than the Mexican War. That's also true of wide-brimmed hats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.80.149 (talk • contribs)

"Ropers"
Boots similar to Ropers were marketed in the past as "Ranch Wellingtons", both being similar to "Hessian" boots.NZephyr (talk) 23:02, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Photo of women's boots in store: include or not?
I posted a photo of women's boots on a store rack, many too fancy to wear while riding. Another editor, with a narrower view of what the article should contain, deleted it. I reverted it just now. Any comments from the rest of you? I will not get into a squabble on this. If people say it is not relevant and should be deleted, so be it. Pete unseth (talk) 22:07, 8 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I see no use for it, it's a random collection of cowboy boots on a rack in a store, shows no boot in detail, certainly not enough to demonstrate the caption, and the caption doesn't even match the photo (plus it runs down women, implying that they are more prone to wear fancy boots for fashion purposes more than men -- men also wear fancy boots) In spite of their bright colors, they are riding and working-style boots, just fancy designs.  And you say they are in the women's section, maybe they are, but lots of people wear boots that fancy.  It adds nothing to the article.   Montanabw (talk) 23:54, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

History section of Cowboy boot needs some updating
A whole bunch of the famous American brands of boots including Noconas and Justins fly under the flag of Berkshire Hathaway these days.Richard8081 (talk) 05:05, 7 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Feel free to add, if you can source it.  Montanabw (talk) 05:33, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Entire "Fitting" section is non-encyclopedic
The second, third, and fourth paragraphs are all essentially a how-to guide on purchasing boots. The sentence "When considering wearing a cowboy boot from a different manufacturer, it is recommended to seek assistance from a knowledgeable merchant who specializes in cowboy boots if a person cannot try them on in person." from the first paragraph also seems particularly inappropriate -- I joked to a friend that it must have been written by a shoe salesman. ZagOnEm (talk) 06:18, 11 July 2022 (UTC)