Talk:Cowdenbeath

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This article would cover all Fife-related articles such as places, famous people, museums, football and rugby clubs and churches to name a few. Examples would be: Kirkcaldy, Andrew Carnegie, Adam Smith, Dunfermline Abbey, Dunfermline Athletic, The Old Course and Kirkcaldy Museum and Art Gallery. This could also help support articles that really do need a lot of work while keeping general maintenance. Examples would be: Methil, Dunfermline, Cupar and a lot of the smaller towns such as Kennoway and Lower Largo. Please see the discussion at WikiProject_Council/Proposals. Kilnburn (talk) 16:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Beath High School
The high school never had a basement, the basement was the ground floor that sunk due to the mine workings, the front windows were just showing above ground level when I left the school in 1966.

D Buchanan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.125.27 (talk) 19:09, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Gaelic form of name
If the national advisory partnership for Gaelic place names in Scotland, Ainmean-Àite na h-Alba, actively states there is no separate form of the name in Gaelic, that really ought to be an end to it surely. Per the toponymy section of the article, the scholarly Placenames of Fife by Taylor & Markus states that only the pre-existing element beith, for the wider parish, is of Gaelic origin, not the whole name. Mutt Lunker (talk) 11:01, 12 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but a lot of the AAA website is complete and utter horse**** - they aren't of much academic worth, they are a government body. They list a number of names as having no separate forms, when in fact one can find them on Gaidhlig maps, in literature etc. Remember that the form is not necessarily the etymology of the English name, but a name which is used in Gaidhlig. If you're going with authorities there are many better ones, you mention Iain Mac an Tailleir... also try Watson, Nicolaisen etc.


 * Many of their translations are atrocious anyway, some downright embarrassing. Some don't even grammatically inflect the names at all, e.g. their "Failte" translations. All of this undermines the use of the Gaidhlig language in Scotland of course.-MacRùsgail (talk) 16:03, 14 December 2014 (UTC) p.s. I have complained to them about this, in more polite terms, and also pointed out to them where some of these "separate forms" can be found, but they haven't bothered to respond...


 * Thanks for the repsonse, useful to know re AAA. I have concerns about forms of placenames in Scotland as noted in Wikipedia in general, hence removing the uncited Gaelic form again (it's been added in the past). There's a lot of (often obscure or newly-created) supposed Scots forms of placenames listed when the standard or commonly-used name is itself Scots, falsely making the common name appear as if it is English or something. (Obviously there are examples too where the common form has been anglicised.) I'm less familiar with the situation on Wikipedia with Gaelic froms of names but likewise worry about the addition of dubious Gaelic creations which are not in fact in currency, ungrammatical or just plain wrong. Absolutely nothing personal (and I have encountered your editing before and view it positively) but from this general situation I am happier to see goods citations for Scots and Gaelic forms of names in infoboxes as I likewise am worried about the undermining of the use of these tongues. Good luck with tackling AAA! Mutt Lunker (talk) 17:53, 14 December 2014 (UTC)


 * By the way, probably the worst source for Gaidhlig names is the old Statistical Account. A few of them are accurate, but some of them are way off the mark, by kirk ministers with little knowledge of the language. (As an aside, the entry for "Maybole" derives the name from the word "Maypole"...) I notice that some of the articles for Ayrshire quote the S.A..


 * In some cases, there are two names for a place. Personally I prefer "Pearraig" for Partick, which is the old form used by Gaidhlig speakers roundabout Loch Lomond and thereabouts... but "Partaig", from the English is more prevalent now and has been adopted by Hebridean migrants.-MacRùsgail (talk) 23:20, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

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