Talk:Cramlington Cramcraft

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BAPC 165 is listed as a Cramlington Primary #2 and BAPC 168 is listed as a Cramcraft Primary #C.A.3 (although the BAPC number was cancelled and re-allocated and another Cramcraft Primary was BAPC 268 which may be the same glider.) Is the Cramlington Primary and the Cramcraft Primary the same glider as the Cramlington Cramcraft ? MilborneOne (talk) 21:07, 27 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Think so. Ellison does not use the name Primary but says it was a primary glider, so Cramlington Primary and Cramcraft Primary are descriptions by type, not unusual (e.g. Manuel VI Primary, EoN Type 7 Primary).  He suggests only 3 of what he calls Cramlington Cramcraft 1 were made and 2 recorded: BGA 165/cn.2 and BGA 168/cn.3, the latter rebuilt as BGA 268.


 * I was slightly puzzled by the number in Cramcraft 1 (King William at the time not William I}; implies a Cramcraft II but nothing in Flight or Sailplane and Glider etc, though there was much talk of newer machines and some photographically recorded serious modifications (as in the S&G "Latest Camcraft"). Maybe BGA 268 got renumbered, or maybe it was just wishful thinking.TSRL (talk) 22:12, 27 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that perhaps we have to presume "II" was just a good idea but the third machine look a likely candidate after re-build, perhaps we just leave it as a mystery. MilborneOne (talk) 11:22, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

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