Talk:Crash Holly/Archive 1

Grand Slam Confusion
I am still looking for a source, but regarding this statement:

"Lockwood also held the WWF European Championship, WWF Light Heavyweight Championship and the WWF Tag Team Championship (with Hardcore Holly) making him a member of the WWE's famed grand slam club."

A grand slam in the WWE means that a wrestler has held every title available to him during the course of his career. Lockwood held neither the Intercontinental Title nor the Heavyweight Title during his tenure in WWE.

A grandslam champion was someone who held the company's top four (Grandslam, is four, just like in baseball) titles, at the time it matter it was the World, IC, Tag and European Titles. All in all though, it was just a tool to get Shawn Micheals over Bret Hart, who the WWF/E had hyped as their first "Triple Crown" champion.(75.21.234.86 09:01, 25 January 2007 (UTC))

Re: Grand Slam Confusion...and Crash's real name?
I don't believe Lockwood ever held the IC title. Also, was it ever stated what Crash's real name was on TV? No, I don't mean MIKE LOCKWOOD. I remember something about him being named Elroy or something. Can that be considered? Tenspeeder 23:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

That was because he looks like Elroy Jetson, mate.

Death
I changed the Death entry. Steven Richards didn't kill Crash Holly. Feel free to clean up the entry, i just put in what I knew off hand.

He commited suicide (Snake, 4/4/7)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dravenfrost (talk • contribs) 23:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

That's a hell of a claim, I thought it was a heart attack - But I really feel this article *needs* at least a mention of the man's death. Anyone with reliable, sourced info? Fatjabba 03:28, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

RE: Request for feedback
I did pretty heavy copyedit already, but here are some more suggestions:
 * There are some questionable sources used in the article. The Other Arena, Gerweck, Online World of Wrestling, and Solie's have yet to be proven as reliable, so I'd change those out if possible. At this point, they are considered better than nothing, but I think we can do better.
 * OWOW is reliable as long as it's only used for non-controversial stuff, like match results. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 00:05, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * On that same note, this article from SLAM! has a lot of the info covered by the other sources in it, so it can be used as a replacement for at least some of them.
 * Can we find out if it was ever "officially" ruled as a suicide? That might be important to note (if it was).
 * The lead needs a paragraphs summing up his career. We've got a list of titles, but what did he "do"?
 * The article mentions a kid...can anything else about his family be found?
 * He's got a shoot interview DVD, so maybe we can add some insight from that. I'm not saying go buy it or anything, but find some internet videos from it, and cite the DVD.
 * Couldn't find any internet videos from it. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 13:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Hope that helps. Nikki 311  02:19, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Here's a pretty good article to use, which might help take care of some of my other suggestions, too.
 * Thanks, Nikki. I'll get on it in the next few days. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 23:52, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 13:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)