Talk:Creep (Radiohead song)/Archive 1

Covers
"Creep is covered in the style of a hymn sung by the female choir Scala & Kolacny Brothers"

No, the is incorrect. It is in the style of a female choir. The majority of choir songs are not hymns! There is nothing in the Scala version that suggests it is a hymn. In fact, it is more in the style of a classical piece (the Kolacny Brothers are classically trained). Unless anyone can think of any reason why it is like a hymn, I'll take this reference out.

(I'm guessing that the person who linked it to a hymn has their only exposure to choirs through hymns) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulmarkj (talk • contribs) 12:34, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Song that influenced 'Creep'
This song is obviously heavily influenced by 'The Hollies - The air that I breathe' and therefore the writing credits should not go solely to Thom Yorke - The Hollies are even credited on the album as songwriters for Creep - I feel this should be mentioned somewhere in the article, but not sure where it would be most appropriate. Any suggestions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMSAnZR2Q8Q&feature=related

99.19.23.240 (talk) 23:26, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Agreed! In fact this is also prominently mentioned in the article The Air That I Breathe, but strangely, not here.  I'm adding it in and we'll see what happens.  --User:Steverapaport  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.240.236 (talk) 02:15, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Agreed, Radiohead actually gives the the writing credits to Thom Yorke, Albert Hammond and Mike Hazlewood in the sleave of the cd/lp/ because the song is lifted from the Air that I breathe and Tom Yorke agreed to share royalties. When I added this with refs it was deleted by aone Indopug. I will undo his edit, help me out if it gets deleted again. Reaper7 (talk) 19:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Not the first single
Anyone can play guitar was their first single.--Unopeneddoor 23:03, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

No, it wasn't, it was their third. Scatterkeir 20:26, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I think Dylan cover of the song is not a live cover. The only version I've heard seems to be just a simple bootleg from a friendly private session or something. Any ideas? --Shervinafshar 17:55, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

The so-called Bob Dylan cover of Creep is known to be a fake, so I removed the reference to it. Scatterkeir 23:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It's been re-added. I must admit, I'd really like to hear Dylan do a cover of the song, but I doubt it's true.-h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 20:52, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Is this part really necessary? -> "The song inspired this animation from Laith Bahrani." Tribaal 16:28, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

X Factor
Wasn't it covered by G4 (From the X Factor) —Preceding unsigned comment added by GMCW (talk • contribs) 09:19, 5 September 2006

Cover Versions
Do we really want to list every instance of every song played by anyone else? I don't think that would be feasible.


 * The list has become too long, with too many non-notable entries. We need to figure out what makes a cover notable - Foetusized (talk) 21:44, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I added the cover by Northern Kings. I figured since the cover was on an album, and not just a one-off performance at a concert, it was at least moderately noteable. --NoobixCube (talk) 09:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Nevertheless, the version by Bill Bailey and the Bollywood Pandits is notable by any standards! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.41.29.255 (talk) 01:07, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Are you guys sure Thom Yorke wrote this? I found a vid on youtube of The Pretenders playing it, didn't they write it? If so, shouldn't you replace the "written by" syntagm off the article? Just my 0.02$. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.122.43.11 (talk) 17:16, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * This is already covered in the article. -- I need a name (talk) 17:20, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Muse has NEVER covered Creep. Everyone mistakes the acoustic version as a Muse cover. If you disagree, then please provide proof. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.162.18 (talk) 01:54, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Creep was covered by Australian jazz singer Frank Bennett whose version is in the style of Frank Sinatra and Tony Bennett big band music of the 1940s and 1950s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Bennett Brody Swan (talk) 01:35, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Appears twice on Amanda Palmer's Radiohead on Ukulele album. http://music.amandapalmer.net/album/amanda-palmer-performs-the-popular-hits-of-radiohead-on-her-magical-ukulele —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.159.203.25 (talk) 19:43, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Video game
Should its debut in the Rockband videogame be mentioned? ~ RayLast  « Talk! » 23:55, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Depressiveing
Why has this song so deppressiveing? He sound like crying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.241.136.135 (talk • contribs) 04:24, 19 April 2008


 * lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.106.122 (talk) 11:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


 * LOL all radiohead songs are just thom yorke crying, havent you noticed? hehe 99.19.23.240 (talk) 23:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Covers
Richard Cheese also covered this song, that should be on here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.119.65 (talk) 20:26, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Flash version
The very popular flash animation associated with this song should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.250.239.161 (talk) 07:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Music Video
I would like to edit the page to include a description of the music video. I think that youtube would be a good source to view the video and observe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Funkychicken2020 (talk • contribs) 19:09, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * That's not the song's music video. The YouTube clip you described in the article is a scene from the film Happily Ever After.  The actual music video is live performance, and uses the original version of the song, not the acoustic one used in that clip.  This is the problem when you do original research.  There's a link to the official music video in the article's External Links section -- Foetusized (talk) 23:59, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Is there a section where this can be added? Besides the external link? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Funkychicken2020 (talk • contribs) 04:50, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Genre
The genre is listed as alternative rock, but if you listen to the song it is very similar to Seattle grunge. Shouldn't it be either listed as grunge or post-grunge. Just because it's not from Seattle dosen't mean it's not grungy. Sbrianhicks (talk) 04:17, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Personal opinions on what it sounds like are original research and are not allowed. Music genres should be sourced to reliable sources. Exxolon (talk) 18:41, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * In spite of the referenced 2009 Pitchfork review, post-grunge did not yet exist in 1992 when this song was recorded and released -- Foetusized (talk) 20:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, post-grunge sprung up as soon as grunge, just like post-punk sprung up as soon as punk. And it isn't original research to notice a song's genre.  Besides, everywhere else just about considers this song to be post-grunge, including, I do believe, other Wikipedia pages.  Sbrianhicks (talk) 02:31, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * a) "Creep" is not post-grunge b) Post-grunge is sub-genre of alternative rock and is redundant to it, so the point is moot.—indopug (talk) 02:56, 4 November 2010 (UTC)


 * It should be noted that any similarities to grunge songs is most likely the result of Radiohead, like Nirvana, being rabid Pixies and R.E.M. fans. WesleyDodds (talk) 06:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I just fixed a couple of those other Wikipedia pages. For example, the article for "Fake Plastic Trees" claimed that "Creep" had a post-grunge sound, but the reference at the end of that sentence  uses the term grunge, but not post-grunge, so I made the change -- Foetusized (talk) 14:56, 4 November 2010 (UTC)


 * According to allmusic, Nirvana is a big influence on Radiohead, so that is most likely where the grungy sound is comming from.


 * By the way, I've got other references saying that the song is post-grunge, such as Amazon.com music and others. Sbrianhicks (talk) 23:26, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Amazon.com is not a reliable source. Furthermore, Radiohead is quite open about its influences, yet I struggle to think of a time they listed Nirvana as one. Around this phase of their career, their main influences were R.E.M., the Pixies, and U2, with Jonny Greenwood being particularly fond of Dinosaur Jr. Not to mention "Creep" was written in the late '80s. WesleyDodds (talk) 13:15, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it has grunge influences, but ultimately, I'd be inclined to label it Britpop. Regardless, if alt-rock's the only source we can find, then leave it. 143.92.1.32 (talk) 03:30, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Composition
The picture and caption under the Composition section are slightly off. The part about it having modal mixture is correct: B (III) and C- (iv) are borrowed chords from the relative minor and the parallel minor, respectively. However, the plus signs in the picture indicate that the chords are augmented, but the notes below are just major chords. The caption also says that there are augmented chords in the progression, but again, the picture only shows major chords, and the song doesn't actually HAVE any augmented chords in it when you listen to it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.254.106.135 (talk) 08:47, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, what he said. The sentence "In G major, these may be interpreted as I–III#–IV–iv" in the body text is also wrong: B is the III of G, not the III#. I don't know if someone just mistranscribed the referenced work, or if the bugs are original, which is why I didn't try to correct this. --69.168.48.167 (talk) 07:26, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Motion Picture Soundtrack
I have made the following edit:

"Thom Yorke commented that they would be playing a "slightly older song... I think." This is probably because "Creep" and "Motion Picture Soundtrack" were written on the same day, but "Creep" was released in 1992 while "Motion Picture Soundtrack" was finally released eight years later. To date, the last major performance of the song was at Reading Festival 2009, where it opened their set."

I've looked for evidence to support the two songs having been written on the same day and found none. Longwayround (talk) 21:29, 11 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I've never heard that before, but the article on Kid A says that Motion Picture Soundtrack was actually written before Creep. Unfortunately, the cite is a dead link. 143.92.1.33 (talk) 07:34, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Removed: Uncited covers

 * "Creep" has been covered, amongst many others, by Korn (acoustic and live on MTV Unplugged: Korn), Collide, the Pretenders, Tom Ugly, Anberlin, Moby, Richard Cheese, Ingrid Michaelson, Eliza Lumly, Karen Souza (jazz cover), Alina Orlova, Damien Rice, and Scarling. "Creep" was also used as the opener for the drum and bugle corps, The Bluecoats. Had the group G4 won the first series of the UK X Factor, "Creep" would have been their winners song and first single.

I removed the above as uncited. Hyacinth (talk) 02:14, 20 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Sodagreen, a Taiwanese indie rock band, covered the song in a 2007 concert at the Taipei Arena.
 * Finnish supergroup, Northern Kings, recorded a symphonic metal version of the song and released it in the album Reborn in 2007.
 * Having performed the song as contestants on the first UK series of The X Factor, the song was released on the self-titled debut album of operatic band G4.
 * Kelly Clarkson performed the song on her Stronger Tour in 2012.
 * Mutya Buena recorded a version of the song for the album The Sound of Camden, released in 2010.
 * Filipino pop rock band Tanya Markova covered the song from the Filipino Various Artist Album, 90's Music Comes Alive.
 * In December, 2010, the a capella group Street Corner Symphony performed "Creep" on The Sing-Off with Jeremy Lister singing lead.

The above where removed without reason given. Note they are all tagged either citation needed or verification needed. Hyacinth (talk) 01:40, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Moby Cover
In the list of covers Moby's version is not listed. Can someone rectify this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.9.88.86 (talk) 09:20, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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