Talk:Crime in the United States

Should intro section be cut down/incorporated into other sections?
The intro includes information on:
 * Global crime rates
 * More specific details on modern rates (last few years)
 * How US compares to other countries
 * How crime data is collected and defined
 * The "basic aspects" (is there a term for this?) of crime.

I think there's an argument for at least some of each bullet to stay in the intro, while some could be moved. Here are some suggestions:
 * Move the discussion about very modern rates (e.g., after the crime drop, the 2020s) to "Crime over time." This would include most of current paragraph 2.
 * Keep brief mentions of how US crime rates compare to rest of world and its cost.
 * Put the last two bullets in a single new section placed before "Crime over time." The new section could be titled something like, "Defining and Tracking Crime"

Those are my initial thoughts, happy to discuss.

Police-recorded violent crime rates includes NCVS data for the US
This table is supposed to be police-recorded violent crime rates, the NCVS is a self reported survey carried out by the census bureau annually. This table should not included self reported survey data.

Suggest data from a police or LE source. KarmaKangaroo (talk) 14:43, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Correlation between crime rates and the number of police officers
I think in the Influences on crime section, "There is no correlation between crime rates and the number of police officers" might be controversial, and I don't think it could be supported with only one source, as other sources also said that there is positive correlation. 2601:647:4400:FE90:F585:3AC4:B25E:38A4 (talk) 16:06, 5 May 2024 (UTC)


 * This section has been removed, as an actual review of citation found that the reference is a book review about two books, and unless this was an article about those books, the reference isn't suitable for this article or that type of statement. Most importantly however the reference does not state what was written anyway, and I don't understand where or how it was originally written using that citation. KarmaKangaroo (talk) 17:10, 6 May 2024 (UTC)