Talk:Criminal conversation

Venues
The article states that cases These suits were conducted at the Court of the King's Bench in Westminster Hall but there were certainly also cases held at assizes: see for example the case of Waterhouse vs Colonel Berkeley,  Cusop Dingle (talk) 17:24, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Wives were their husbands' property??
This is in the article:


 * It was based upon compensation for the husband's loss of property rights in his wife, the wife being regarded as his chattel.[1] Historically a wife could not sue her husband for adultery, as he could not be her chattel if she was already his.
 * [1] Black's Law Dictionary, 4th ed. 1957.
 * [1] Black's Law Dictionary, 4th ed. 1957.

This seems like it knows what is talking about as it uses legal jargon. But I am sure husbands having "property rights" in their wives not true, or at least a twisting of words of how they were used at the time. The reference doesn't give a page number. I found a copy of Black's Law Dictionary 4th Edition online, and this is all it has to say about "criminal conversation":

So the reference doesn't support what it is supposed to. Count Truthstein (talk) 18:12, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
 * CRIM. CON. An abbreviation for "criminal conversation," of very frequent use, denoting adultery. Rash v. Pratt, 111 A. 225, 228, 1 W.W.Harr.,
 * Del., 18; Hargraves v. Ballou, 47 R.I. 186, 131 A.
 * 643, 645.
 * The term in its general and comprehensive sense, is synonymous with "adultery" ; but in its more limited and
 * technical signification it may be defined as adultery in the
 * aspect of a tort. Turner v. Heavrin, 182 Ky. 65, 206 S.W.
 * 23, 4 A.L.R. 562.
 * CRIMINAL:
 * Criminal conversation
 * Defilement of the marriage bed, sexual intercourse of an outsider with husband or wife, or a
 * breaking down of the covenant of fidelity. Young
 * v. Young, 236 Ala. 627, 184 So. 187, 190, 191. Adultery, considered in its aspect of a civil injury to
 * the husband entitling him to damages; the tort
 * of debauching or seducing of a wife. Often abbreviated to crim. con.
 * CONVERSATION. Manner of living; habits of
 * life; conduct; as in the phrase "chaste life and
 * conversation." Bradshaw v. People, 153 Ill. 156,
 * 38 N.E. 652. Criminal conversation means seduction of another man's wife, considered as an
 * actionable injury to the husband. Prettyman v.
 * Williamson, 1 Pennewill (Del.) 224, 39 A. 731;
 * Crocker v. Crocker, C.C.Mass., 98 F. 702.
 * INJURY:
 * Personal injury. A hurt or damage done to a
 * man's person, such as a cut or bruise, a broken
 * limb, or the like, as distinguished from an injury
 * to his property or his reputation. The phrase
 * is chiefly used in connection with actions of tort
 * for negligence. Norris v. Grove, 100 Mich. 256,
 * 58 N.W. 1006; State v. Clayborne, 14 Wash. 622,
 * 45 P. 303. But the term is also used (chiefly in
 * statutes) in a much wider sense, and as including
 * any injury which is an invasion of personal rights,
 * and in this signification it may include such injuries as libel or slander, criminal conversation
 * with a wife, seduction of a daughter, and mental
 * suffering. McDonald v. Brown, 23 R.I. 546, 51 A.
 * 213, 58 L.R.A. 768, 91 Am.St.Rep. 659.
 * LEGENITA. A fine for criminal conversation
 * with a woman. Whart.Lex. See Legruita.
 * with a wife, seduction of a daughter, and mental
 * suffering. McDonald v. Brown, 23 R.I. 546, 51 A.
 * 213, 58 L.R.A. 768, 91 Am.St.Rep. 659.
 * LEGENITA. A fine for criminal conversation
 * with a woman. Whart.Lex. See Legruita.
 * with a woman. Whart.Lex. See Legruita.

I just changed it. Why would anyone not? I mean whenever i see something that is not in the cite given I change it to match the cite. Have I acted inappropriately?Winfredtheforth (talk) 17:46, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Worsely v. Bisset
The article states that Sir Richard Worsely lost his crim. con. suit against George Bisset. This isn't correct.

The jury did find that crim. con. had occurred; Lady Worsely's lawyers admitted it. But rather than the £20,000 that Richard claimed, the jury awarded him one shilling (12 pence). Technically, he won, but his reputation was destroyed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.116.134.107 (talk) 15:51, 24 October 2015 (UTC)