Talk:Criminally insane

IF SOMEONE IS READING THIS, I SUGGEST THAT THIS ARTICLE IS RE-WRITTEN. APPARENTLY HITLER WASN'T OVERTLY EVIL AND "If one were to meet him in real life he would appear to be quite normal.

PLEASE EDIT THIS BULLSHIT, I CAN'T BE BOTHERED.

IT SHOULD ALL BE DELETED, BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS JUST REPLACED THE ARTICLE WITH THEIR OPINION- SO I SUGGEST THAT YOU DELETE THE WHOLE THING, AS THERE IS NO LONGER A RECOGNISEABLE ENTRY UNDER "CRIMINALLY INSANE". THANK YOU

His actions, misguided and wrong as they were, did not occur because of an inherent desire for death. From what we know, they came about because of some wrong ideas he had, and not due to an inherent desire for violence. He didn't necessarily enjoy the actual violent aspect of it, merely the end result of such actions.

This article seems to be written by someone who is so bias they have disregarded the existence of people such as Ted Bundy, Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson and every other criminally insane person.

I've rewritten this article for neutrality. For the most part, those groups seem to be correct.

As for your list of persons they seem to ignore, I should note that most of them are portrayed as anything but neutral. Hitler, for example, can be said to be following through by what he was raised as during childhood -- there was a lot of turmoil during his childhood, and Jews were frequently blamed. This does not excuse his actions, merely points out that he wasn't criminally insane or necessarily an overtly evil character if one were to meet him in real life he would appear to be quite normal. His actions, misguided and wrong as they were, did not occur because of an inherent desire for death. From what we know, they came about because of some wrong ideas he had, and not due to an inherent desire for violence. He didn't necessarily enjoy the actual violent aspect of it, merely the end result of such actions. Manson did not receive a fair trial, as noted in a variety of books, and much of the popular information about him is false. This does not excuse their actions, I merely point out that a biased hatred (even if this hatred is reasonable) is not a basis for fact.

That being said, until extensive research can be shown that dispels criminal insanity, their arguments should not be presented as fact.

-- Harpalus

Needs more work
I believe this article is factually incorrect, as "criminally insane" used in legal jargon as different from "not guilty on the grounds of insanity", but I'm not sure what the distinction is. Criminality implies guilty mind (mens rea) while insanity implies out of one's mind.--Jack Upland 09:03, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Question value of article
The term "criminally insane" calls for a definition not an encyclopedia article. On the other hand, an article on "Insanity under/in Criminal Law" would be valuable if written by a knowledgeable contributor. I would recommend deleting this rather discursive article and starting from scratch. soverman 20:04 22 Feb 2006 (UTC)

I agree. This article reads like a magazine sidebar, not an entry in an encyclopedia. Deleting this article would free up a space, put the linked term "criminally insane" in red, prompting someone who actually knows something about jurisprudence and legal terminology to contribute useful information. The article as it stands now is one of the most deficient and least informative of any I've read on wikipedia. No offense. intelligentlife 2006

This is all about fictional works and their steryotypes of the criminaly insaine, not what, legaly, criminaly insaine means.