Talk:Crimson and Clover

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An infobox was requested for the 1982 Joan Jett & the Blackhearts recording of "Crimson and Clover" at WikiProject_Missing_encyclopedic_articles/List_of_notable_songs/3.

Crimson and Clover is a song by tommy and his back up singers it was a real popular hit in the 60's. If you have any idea what crimson and clover actually means please feel free to edit this page and write how you feel or think it means. It would be a big help for those thousands of people who wonder what the F*** does Crimson and Clover mean. Thank You, and I'm looking forward to hear from you!

Sincerley,

The Editor

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.226.55.118 (talk) 15:28, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

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love american hifi and jimmy eat world, found out what the reference was a while back and was gonna add it to wikipedia. thanks for beating me to it!!!

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Justincop (talk • contribs) 20:18, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Missing heading
Is the cover by Velvet Underground confirmed? I couldn't find any releases of the song by VU among studio and compilation albums.142.157.198.203 17:17, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Comment on the lyircs
Could someone provide any comments on the lyrics and integrate it in the article? Thanks. 84.61.26.222 12:11, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Velvet Underground
I moved the reference to the Velvet Underground, but does it even need to be there? It has no source and, I think, no merit littlebum2002 17:33, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I somehow ended up with nine copies of this song in my MP3 library: three tracks reference Tommy James and the Shondells, but the remaining six songs labeled "Crimson and Clover" show the artist as Velvet Underground. It'd be interesting to find out how this came to be (e.g. a tagging error in 1992 that memed into a widespread false assumption?), but I would not want to see this item removed, as it helped me closer to answering my question.


 * When I looked through the torrents, the seemingly unique (based on length, bitrate & file size) files were:


 * ~ 3:15 Joan Jett / Pat Benatar / The Pretenders / Suzi Quattro
 * - 5:25 Fleetwood Mac / Simon & Garfunkle / Velvet Underground
 * - 5:28 Tommy James and the Shondells


 * The cover by Joan Jett & The Blackhearts is featured on the soundtrack to High Fidelty


 * - Caen 06:32, 3 October 2007 (UTC) - Updated (Caen) 8 October 2007.


 * Well let's clear this up. The Velvet Underground has never covered Crimson and Clover either on an album or live. I doubt any of the members ever have. Tigerman2005 (talk) 00:42, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
 * No but Sweet Jane has a very similar chord progression which might cause confusion. Chairman Meow 22 (talk) 06:16, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Genre
The genre part of the info box was blank. I put in "psychedelic rock". 74.100.0.150 01:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

AOL bots
How is this line in the first paragraph relevant? What does it possibly have to do with the song? "The line "Crimson and clover -- over and over!!!" is used by bots in AOL chat rooms."

I believe it should be removed. --216.75.93.110 13:43, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

- I don't think it's relevant either, and it definitely needs to be sourced. Dan ad nauseam (talk) 05:01, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Strawberry Alarm Clock
I removed the reference to a Strawberry Alarm Clock cover as it appears to be based on a mislabeled torrent distribution and appears in no Strawberry Alarm Clock discographies.Jkolak (talk) 07:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Christmas Is Over
Did anybody REALLY think this is what he was singing? It sounds nothing like it, and a fancruft song review from allmusic is hardly an authoritative source for the statement. Who were these people, and where is the evidence that "some listeners" made this mistake? If no better source can be found, the statement should be deleted as the nonsense it seems to be. 217.43.157.23 (talk) 00:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. This Christmas is over thing is nonsense. Also, putting the mic through a guitar amp and flicking the tremelo is impossible, since the tremelo is on a guitar. It seems more likely that a univibe or rotovibe was used, which is similar to a Leslie rotating speaker, since it sounds much more like the volume was pulsating, rather than the tone. 137.111.47.29 (talk) 04:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * @137.111.47.29 the whammy bar on a guitar is often called a tremolo but that is an incorrect name: it produces a variation of pitch so, technically, it's a vibrato arm. Tremolo is a variation of volume. Seismofish (talk) 15:44, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Wow, you need to brush up on your electronics. Tremolo is on a lot of amps, and not on guitars. MH441967 (talk) 03:24, 30 April 2011 (UTC)MH441967

Karoushtefor Clover
This article has the only reference I found on Google to "Karoushtefor Clover." Does anyone know what this is supposed to be? Alden Loveshade (talk) 02:20, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Single Version
The Chicago radio station WLS (AM) played a third-generation copy of the rough mix (master reels -- Tommy James personal copy -- radio copy). After the popularity of this recording on the Chicago station, what did the record company use for the professional, national single pressing? I'm assuming they took the original master tape (unedited and untouched) and prepared a mix from that. But it's unclear. Anyone have any ideas?

And was the album version a re-recording, or did they use the rough mix and add to it? 71.226.227.121 (talk) 10:59, 14 August 2019 (UTC)