Talk:Criss Angel/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:42, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Right - I'll do this one - loved his shows. Will make straightforward copyedits as I go and jot queries below: Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:42, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Can you caption the images and give basic info (where and when taken, and who is in the second one)


 * Ensure all refs have dates formatted the same way (look at accessdate of FN 103 for example)


 * Given the size of the article, the lead should be bigger - aim for two paras each about the size of what's currently there (i.e. double the lead in size)


 * I'd split the first sentence in the Early life section - avoid run on "and"s


 *  By the time he graduated from East Meadow High School, he decided to pursue a career - I'd make it "had decided" - pluperfect tense here


 * The last sentence about his Greek decent sits oddly where it is. I'd try and get it near the beginning of the section.


 * With his career, how was he selected to go on TV in 1994...any info here would be good.


 * ... in a "water torture cell" - if this is the name of the device, doesn't need to be in quote marks


 *  where he was "Shackled and submerged in a phone-booth-sized tank of water in New York's Times Square" - rewrite without quotation marks - should be straightforward. Use quotes only for memorable ones, as the quote marks are jarring to read.


 *  To prepare for the trick, he practiced in a neighbor's backyard swimming pool next to his mother's house in East Meadow, New York, and prior to the performance he had only managed to spent 12 consecutive hours in the water.  - the "and" sits oddly - would split the sentence there.


 * ...and was named one of the best shows of the summer - state by whom


 * I'd link root canal


 * Is there any more discussion on how he does his tricks? That'd be good to add.

More later. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:44, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you Cas Liber. I have followed your advice on each of these points and made changes to the page accordingly. The one item I had trouble with was an explanation as to his 1994 selection. I was able to find a non-RS source (an unsourced undergraduate essay) that claims he was chosen because he was willing to reveal how his magic tricks were done, however I cannot find an RS that supports this. So while the information is out there, I'm not sure there is a reference we can use to add it. Jeremy112233 (talk) 17:27, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Aah, this is not uncommon - nevermind, leave out until something turns up. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:22, 4 March 2014 (UTC)


 * There is a great quote in this on how he feels about mediums which gives a good insight,


 * I note there is some material on google books. though not accessible for me in Oz. Can you access any of these or get them in a local library?


 * Thanks Cas Liber, I have taken your advice and added in material from the Newsday article, in addition to some additional material I found regarding how he has revealed his tricks and box office information. In terms of Google books, those with free previews are only travel books talking about his show and a comedian skewering him for a joke, so I'm not sure there is additional material available there. There is a preview for his own book, but I'm not sure if including material from it will help as it is a primary reference. Jeremy112233 (talk) 18:12, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

1. Well written?:
 * Prose quality:
 * Manual of Style compliance:

2. Factually accurate and verifiable?:
 * References to sources:
 * Citations to reliable sources, where required:
 * No original research:

3. Broad in coverage?:
 * Major aspects:
 * Focused:

4. Reflects a neutral point of view?:
 * Fair representation without bias:

5. Reasonably stable?
 * No edit wars, etc. (Vandalism does not count against GA):

6. Illustrated by images, when possible and appropriate?:
 * Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

Overall:
 * Pass or Fail: - I was umming and aaahing over breadth of coverage WRT GA status for a few days. Ultimately I think if one were trying for FA then one would need one or more of the books, but as it stands the coverage is broad enough to qualify for GA status. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:02, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds great, I will keep that in mind as I revisit the article over time! Jeremy112233 (talk) 14:38, 18 March 2014 (UTC)