Talk:Crocker Motorcycles

For an April 2005 deletion debate over this page see Votes for deletion/Crocker Motorcycles

Plant foreman
There seems some controversy over whether this was Bigsby or Rhyne. Rhyne's name was added to the article by an anon, who produced a rather stange piece of grammar in the process.

Bigsby is listed in several places, and had a major role in the design of many components. He was an engineer himself, but seems to have worked more by intuition he had aquired working in several motorcycle factories, while Crocker did the engineering proper.

The claim of Rhyne seems to come only from Rhyne himself and those who knew him many years after the demise of the Crocker plant. There's no doubt he worked there. Andrewa 19:22, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Large Photos
I made the photos on this page unusually large, in compliance with MOS, "in order to enhance the readability" because it is hard to see the details on this motorcycle if they are produced at standard Wiki size. Jeff dean 03:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Edit war
I have protected this page on whatever version that I have found it. It was this, or block you both for edit warring. Please discuss the issues here and come to a consensus on what the article should look like. Better yet, come up with some Reliable sources to back up your viewpoints. Woody (talk) 11:20, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

The article here is unhelpful. does not provide information wrt when the first V-twin was produced, or when the production ended. To state that 100 V twins were produced is absolute fiction, and only highlights the issue of the many fakes being produced and passed off as genuine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Montoya44 (talk • contribs) 03:37, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Litigation
The business affairs of the present day Crocker Motorcycle Company are before the courts of law, as well there is a libel/slander suit against Mr Schacht by Mr Karalash. In light of these issues we are asking that all of the copy be removed that refers to the new corporation which includes:  1. The second sentence of the listing which starts "In 1999..." and 2. The whole section titled The current Crocker Motorcycle Company. Until these issues have been successfully resolved it would be best to leave off all references to the new Crocker Motorcycle Company.Cv4 (talk) 21:10, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This information is sourced and it would be best to email the Foundation at info@wikimedia.org to inform them of concerns here. Copy of this left on editor's talk page. -- Rodhullandemu  (Talk) 21:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

The battle between Karalash and Schacht regarding ownership and control of Crocker Motorcycle Company (Canada) was resolved in a Toronto, Ontario court in 2008 and ordered into Bankruptcy. Schacht setteled with banks and purchased the Crocker assets from the appointed bankruptcy receiver. Karalash chose not to show up for the auction. Crocker Motorcycle has since relocated back to southern California in 2008 where it first. There has been no litigation since. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:1908:11C6:DC3E:1E08:54A1:7459 (talk) 20:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Crocker Motorcycle Company
Firstly, Thanks to the administrators that have taken control of this page. The description of the Crocker Motorcycle Company is quite accurate in spite of current legal issues between the shareholders. The page had been unchanged for some time until the new information, introduced a few days ago by an unhappy shareholder, accuses another shareholder of theft. There is no truth to these allegations, the current company description is correct and wikipedia is not a forum for fighting.

It is true that both Schacht and Karalash are in court, and the new info in question is a one sided opinion of Karalash only. Schacht has chosen to leave things as they are, pending an outcome to their disagreement. Schacht will make both sworn Affidavit's of Karalash and Schacht available for publishing on line if that will clear up this problem. If Karalsah can air his opinion on the page, then Schacht should be able to as well. Schacht and Karalash will be in court in late March 2008. This page must be controled by a third party until then as there is only court resolution possible for these shareholders. 99.232.16.223 14:43, 8 January 2008 (UTC)99.232.16.223 (talk) 01:56, 8 January 2008 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.232.16.223 (talk) 01:34, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I have not taken control of this page, I have fully protected to stop your persistent edit war. That protection will expire on 14 January. Let me make it clear that this is not the place for advocacy on either side. It is a place to provide neutral, verifiable sourced information. It is not a battleground in which two opposing sides in an outside battle use an article to advance their own position. Deal with your problems in the Courts, if the decision of the Courts affects the article, then it can be added in then, as it can be sourced to Court documents. I will watch this page, yet I am loathe to extend the protection beyond next week. Woody (talk) 18:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Wondering if maybe the section of "the new crocker motorcycle company" needs a rewrite as it sounds like it was written by the company itself. the sentences that say our website and our sales are sort of advertisements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.153.40.203 (talk) 02:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree. This section reads like promotional material posted by the company itself. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an online advertising tool. Either delete the section or subject it to a comprehensive re-write. Tomasjpn (talk) 08:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)Tomasjpn

This article is compromised. It has been filled with company propaganda. Once again, Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not an advertising agency. Rewrite or remove the last section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.64.43.134 (talk) 19:37, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

The three previous comments are exactly correct: the final section reads like a press release, not an article. It should be rewritten or deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.249.113.155 (talk) 22:33, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Related articles may be found in other forums; Crazy World of the Crocker part 1 and part 2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Montoya44 (talk • contribs) 07:32, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Copyrighted section deleted
The section on the new Crocker company was copy-pasted from the about us page of crockermotorcycleco.com. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 07:34, 9 February 2017 (UTC)