Talk:Crocodile (Black Mirror)

Is it *set* in Iceland?
I know it’s filmed in Iceland, but is it definitely set in Iceland? Is there a definitive setting, or is it intentionally not specified? EuroAgurbash (talk) 14:44, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It's not stated in episode, but there's statements from the producers, like this one that say the episode is set (and also filmed) there. --M asem (t) 14:49, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think it's safe to say in the Plot that it's set in Iceland. As the article's Production section says, it was originally intended to be Scottish but the eventual setting chosen was Iceland. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 15:40, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Since Iceland was not mentioned in the episode, i believe a more accurate way to phrase it is "The episode was shot in Iceland and tells the story of Mia (Andrea Riseborough) as she tries to cover up a death in a hit-and-run, that she and her friend Rob (Andrew Gower) commited fifteen years ago." You might even want to think about saying "shot in the snowy landscapes of Iceland". -- Radiphus  15:57, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Mia's gender is not mentioned in the episode either but no-one disputes using the pronouns "she" for Mia. Self-evident facts about the episode, whether stated explicitly in dialogue or not, can be included in the plot description; if this is contentious, we can add inline citations for the mention of Iceland. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 16:15, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It is a fair question. I know the use of that concern hall that has a very unique design establishes where that was filmed and the show presents it (without text) as fulfilling its function as a conference center. Add the icey landscapes and other clear Nordic influences of the architecture and its hard to say where else that could be set (can't be Alaska or Siberia for example). Contrast that to Arkangel, which while filmed in Toronto has zero clear signs of its location, and it could have easily been set in any mid-city suburbia. I think it is fair in the lede to say, "Filmed in Iceland", as many reviewers have commented on the stark setting here making it an establishing element, but since the setting has little direct impact on the concise plot and we dont mention Iceland in the summary, we should probably err on the lede, unless we get a stronger statement from production otherwise. --M asem  (t) 16:23, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah sorry – my stance is that we should mention it in the Plot section (probably just briefly in the first sentence). As you say it is significant to the style of the episode (ideally someone who's never seen the episode should have a good understanding of it from the plot summary alone – knowing it is set in Iceland is key to picturing it properly). For the lead, saying it was filmed in Iceland would be fair enough. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 16:38, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Though i understand mentioning Iceland in the lead, since the filming location is mentioned in the production section, i disagree that it should also be mentioned in the plot section, withought it being part of the storyline. Is there something linking the episode to Iceland, like for example the mention of the real-life name of a hotel, a road or something else in the country? If not, to help readers picture the setting, we could use phrases like "mountainous region", "snowy landscape", etc. -- Radiphus  17:03, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I've removed "set in Iceland"; it's absurd. At one point it's mentioned that the accident took place in "the Stanhope Road", which is blatantly not Icelandic. Wherever it was set, it was clearly intended to be an English-speaking country. —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 21:50, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Also everybody speaks with a Scottish accent, which would be a weird detail to include so thoroughly if it's meant to be taking place in Iceland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.113.192.36 (talk) 18:15, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Trivia Section?
If there is ever a trivia section of the page, it could be noted that one of the channels under the porn options she scrolls past is "WraithBabes" which is the name of a porn channel featured heavily in another episode (season 1, episode 2) where a singer reluctantly becomes one such star.. Thehomeland (talk) 01:24, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi ! Wikipedia doesn't include trivia sections because our purpose is just to report what reliable sources have said about the episode. However, sometimes reliable sources do mention Easter eggs. For instance, in our article on "USS Callister", the last paragraph of the Analysis section is about Easter eggs which reliable sources have discussed. — Bilorv (he/him) (talk) 09:19, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi The reference is to another episode of the same series of itself, which is the most reliable source possible.. I'm not asking if wiki itself provides such a section by nature, but whether this specific entry would; it is a literal word-for-word match across the two episodes. The reference for the other episode containing it could perhaps be its own wikipedia entry, or perhaps by extension the source the other episode's entry uses to state it, or are the references necessary so specific that the source needs to contain exactly the discussion of the connection, rather than having mentioned the literal word connection in passing? Thehomeland (talk) 16:42, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * It's original research to make a connection that is not made explicitly in a source, so in this case we'd need a secondary source to say that this episode is referencing Fifteen Million Merits. I should have said "secondary source" in my above message because we also have policies about due weight, which means that we don't generally have sections about material which isn't discussed in a secondary source. Exceptions do apply but per WP:TRIVIA, trivia sections are not a good way to organise information anyway. — Bilorv (he/him) (talk) 16:57, 20 July 2019 (UTC)