Talk:Cromartie (Terminator)

What is a Cromartie?
What in god's name is a 'cromartie'? I keep seeing this word. Cromarty highschool, the Cromarty enemies from Viewtiful Joe...
 * As far as I know, it's just a name. Kind of a weird name for the show's villain, though. Although "Mart" as in Marty/Martin means "War" in Greek. Joylock (talk)

Crom is short for 'Cromwell' - The writer was thinking of a religious zealot Corbin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.78.241.140 (talk) 15:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I took it to imply he's chrome underneath, Chrome-artie. Fletcher (talk) 15:56, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I think it's a tribute to Chromartie high school, as in the anime series with mecha/android overtones. Just as "Cameron" is a tribute to James Cameron. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.217.200.214 (talk) 12:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Its an amalgam of the word Chrome and the name Moriarty, the nemesis of Sherlock Homes. Chrome-Moriarty. Chrom-arty. 65.33.34.86 (talk) 03:48, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

It's a name. Get over it. Don't think about it, just go along with it. kingdom2 (talk) 04:07, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Cromartie Scottish name and place. It did seem a lot like they were punning on "Chrome" in the series though. Without suitable citations this is all just speculation and not suitable for addition to the article. -- Horkana (talk) 10:24, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Stupid name for a Terminator. At least Schwarzenegger's one had "Uncle Bob" :) Oh, and Marcus would destroy this guy.{JoeLoeb (talk) 21:04, 24 May 2009 (UTC))

LOL. Cromartie is easily the coolest terminator in the franchise, and would obviously be able to easily take out Uncle Bob and Marcus, seeing as how it is a much better model. Anyway, the name is obviously that of the substitute teacher that he needed to take the place of after killing Mr. Ferguson. They just continue calling it that because they don't have any other name for it.

Different Actors
I might have missed something, but why is he played by two different actors? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.136.223.186 (talk) 05:16, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * A Terminator similar to the Series 800/850 is played by Owain Yeoman in the pilot episode. In one scene he uses the name Cromartie while he is pretending to be a substitute teacher.
 * The Hollywood Reporter has reported that Garret Dillahunt has been added to the cast as "a mysterious character named Cromartie".
 * What that means remains to be seen, although episode two airs in less than 24 hours. —MJBurrage(T•C) 07:33, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Spoiler i guess (quick close your eyes) - since all his skin was removed and only left the ecoskeleton, once he "rebuilds" himself he will probably look different. --IceHunter (talk) 14:17, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * while cromartie was initially the school teacher, (SPOILER WARNING) his skin was melted and his head detached from his body by sarah when they went bank and then to the year 2007. later he went to a plastic surgeon and adopted the face of the actor. that's why he has 2 faces/skins but its still the same endoskeleton. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gcancelado (talk • contribs) 23:30, June 10, 2008

But do any of you guys have a picture of him after the blood bath, but before the surgery? You know, when he was a bald freak? And I would have believed him to be human if he had kept his bald apperance, but no, you just have to be better than everyone else!!!!! But if you have an image of baldy Cromartie please put it on the article.Goku&#39;s Rival (talk) 22:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Series and Model name
According to The Arnold Fans Cameron Phillips is the Series 888 Terminator, not Cromartie; although Get Terminated suggests that Cromartie is the Series 888. I would guess that the latter site is what various fan sites have based this detail on. Pretty thin evidence either way to me. —MJBurrage(T•C) 08:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * They both had virtually identical HUDs in their "Terminator Vision" mode, with Cromartie in traditional red and Cameron in blue. --64.123.119.253 (talk) 05:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * As shown in the episode Queen's Gambit, there's another T-888, the one that killed the Resistance fighters and that shot Derek Reese and that Cameron later deactivated. Derek and Sarah both call it a T-888 during the episode. I'd suggest that both Cromartie and that Terminator are Series 888 models. Carter (the Coltan procurement Terminator) may or may not be one&mdash;it is, according to Cameron, too short, and its endoskeletal points don't match Cromartie's.&mdash;Observ (talk) 17:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Reference to anime?
Is his name any reference to Cromartie High School? --64.123.119.253 (talk) 05:13, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I assumed it was a play on the Terminator's chrome endoskelaton. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.152.245.18 (talk) 18:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

endoskeleton
i haven't seen anyone mention this anywhere. Am i the only one that noticed that the main chassis (torso) on cromartie's endoskeleton is vastly different then other terminators. The head and limbs seem the same, though, —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Great Morgil (talk • contribs) 03:32, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * They look pretty similar to me. 24.252.87.219 (talk) 01:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree this Terminator looks a little different then the 800 ir the 850. The torso looks "beefier", it would make sense that the 888 wouldnt look much different from the 850, since there wasnt that much change between the 800 and 850 besides the removeable powercell. I was hoping to put up a good picture of the endoskeleton on the page but I dont have one. Tsurettejr (talk) 12:41, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't see in the article that the T-888 has a coltan endoskeleton and the T-800 has a titanium endoskeleton  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.148.166.80 (talk) 23:45, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Model number
You know it's kind of common knowledge among terminator fans that Cromartie is a T-888... might want to put that in here somewhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.143.86.178 (talk) 22:58, 22 January 2008 (UTC) Actually, in episode 4 of season 1, Cameron`s HUD identifies Chromarty as a T-888 when she is reviewing the footage of his head coming through the time displacement field with them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.222.59.18 (talk) 08:32, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You need a verifiable source to add something to the article, and from what I've seen, what information there is about his model number is a little contradictory. 24.252.87.219 (talk) 00:49, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The show has not said anything about his model number, only the other Terminator that killed the resistance fighters was named by John's Uncle, as a 888. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.208.152.156 (talk) 23:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

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Static Identity of Cromartie?
Does anyone have an idea of the last time one of the characters referred to him as Cromartie? In other words, does the Cromartie identity seem fixed or should this page perhaps be renamed to something more generic? I agree it's convenient to write "Cromartie" rather than something like "the enemy Terminator"; I'm just wondering how in touch this is with the show. -Fritter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.152.245.18 (talk) 18:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, the official plot summaries, and the credits, still refer to him as Cromartie even after he assumed the identity of that actor guy. So Cromartie is at least a semi-official name for the character. Joylock (talk) 22:38, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * This is a settled issue as far as I'm concerned, but in the finale, Cameron's HUD does indeed identify "Agent Kester" as Cromartie, so that is definitely his name.Fritter (talk) 17:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

He is called Cromartie pretty much every time he is brought up in a conversation with the Connors, even after they defeat him. Heck, in the episode before the series finale, when John finds out about Weaver's use of his body, John says to Sarah: "I don't think it's Cromartie.  I think it's something worse". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.53 (talk) 05:53, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Useful sources for rewrite
Yeah.~ZytheTalk to me! 16:39, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Garret Dillahunt: Terminating The Future, Comic book resources.
 * Sarah Connor Terminator builds a better Mousetrap, Firefox News.

Silicon CPU?
Maybe I missed where they said it was a Silicon CPU but I find this extremely hard to believe. The neural net CPUs were described as made out of a "Room temperature" super-conductor. Furthermore Silicon would never in any circumstances, reach the desired Data output to power an artificially intelligent machine. But I'll be fair, it's a Sci-Fi, but let me ask this, why would Skynet develope it's CPUs with a substance that would need constant liquid cooling lest it risk instant meltdown (If and only if you managed to get a silicon chip to move that much data, it'd instantly melt. Heck it almost instantly melts if you raise the clockspeed above 3.7GHz with passive cooling). Victis Kato (talk) 12:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Armor Piercing
I got rid of the reference to Derek's armor piercing incendiary bullets being used by John. This might have made sense for a kill shot, but John clearly uses a semi-automatic pistol for the shot. The bullets of Derek's used to kill the previous Terminator were Raufoss Mk 211, .50 caliber shells used in a very large rifle or machine gun, such as the Barret M82 used by Derek in the earlier episode, and not a semi-automatic pistol. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.31.173.184 (talk) 16:21, 13 November 2008 (UTC)