Talk:Cross-dominance

Citations?
The "characteristics" section seems to be lacking in citations... is this stuff really true? Can someone help clean this up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.16.40.108 (talk) 08:01, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Cyclic definition
Comment to the authors of this entry (20060829): Ambidextrous redirects here, yet this word is used in the first paragraph.

Ambidexterity
I merged ambidexterity here. Why not the other way around? After all, ambidexterity is more famous! Well, my reasong is that cross-dominance is the broader category. Hopefully we'll get some info on people who are cross-dominant with their eyes, feet, kidneys, whatever. Then, rather than having an ambidexterous article that has a whole bunch of stuff aobut feet and eyes, we'll have this article. Avraham 20:35, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

A lot of people in my family are cross dominant one way or another. Most have mismatched eyes vs. hands and one might be ambidexterous or partially ambidexterous, but was institutionally trained to be right handed. Could there be a link between Hand Ambidextery and miss matches of eyes vs. hands?


 * Ambidexterity doesn't belong here. It has its own article: ambidexterity. Kortoso (talk) 21:47, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Link to Ambidexterity
The first paragraph of this links to Ambidexterity which redirects here. Is that right? Jonathan 03:12, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Ambidexterity rare at birth
I have a question about the following statement: "Although ambidexterity is rare at birth,.."

In the handeness main article it says that it is not known exactly why we prefer one side to another, and that is it not genetic. So how it is possible to born with ambidextery?


 * Please learn how to use Wikipedia. Kortoso (talk) 21:48, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Development
Can ambidexterity be acquired through training? For example, it's said that japanese swordsman Miyamoto Musashi was the most skilled swordsman ever. He developed his own ambidextrous sword technique, fighting with a long sword in one hand, and a short sword and the other at the same time. In this sense, is it possible to develop other skills, such as write well with both hands, paint and even draw? E.Cortez 00:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC-3)
 * I think the third paragraph of Amberdexterity answers this question. ~Sushi 08:15, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Development of ambidexterity is indeed possible; the time and effort required, however, depends largely on the person.

Since 2000-2001, George D. Patnoe., Jr. has developed a series of ordered right/left hand writing and drawing exercises for developing the brain's language skills for developing better communication skills, especially for brain recovery from head injury and/or nonuse of the language areas of the brain. He is currently writing a book regarding his ambidextrous brain and its story, but you can read his story writing blog at, http://tastethewind.blogspot.com/


 * Miyamoto Musashi's technique seems similar to certain historical European swordfighting techniques that used a long sword in one hand and a short sword in the other. These were trained methods.  Being ambidextrous myself (left-dominant), my experience is that skill is not natural.  However, ambidexterity makes it simple to change sides while sparring with a two-handed weapon.  I do this while my opponent recovers from a move and I change stances many times during a match: it's a tremendous advantage.  Some right-handed people tried to learn this from me and acquired the stance change itself easily enough, but they had difficulty with the idea of inverting their blocking moves.  To answer the other part of your question, it seems possile to "become" ambidextrous through practice, but then there are some people such as myself who, as children, simply reached for a crayon or pencil with whichever hand was closer.  There are disadvantages too: I couldn't tell right from left until I was eight years old and still get directions wrong sometimes because the notion of "a right turn" is not intuitive.  I recommend taking the assertions in this article with a large grain of salt: I've tried to find sources to verify it and there's nearly nothing that satisfies WP:V.  In my PubMed searches, ambidexterity is not well defined or well studied.  I suspect it has something to do with brain organization, but this is pure speculation. Durova 12:06, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I learned my rights and lefts with the playstation controller, R1 and L1. L1 is left R1 is right.

--- Sorry, but you CAN NOT learn to be an ambidexter. You can only learn to do things with your non-dominant hand / other hand, if you are right- or left-handed. But when you do this learned things with your non-dominant hand, you do not feel pretty. That is because you do this with your non-dominant hand. Ambidexters have to learn with each hand, too, but they have not this dominant- and non-dominant feeling before start learning or practice something new. You are born as a right- or left-hander, or as an ambidexter. For example, if a left-hander must do all things with his right hand, like in old times when people have to write and do other things with the right-hand, is he than a right-hander? No, he is not. Altough he do all things with his right hand, he is still a left-hander. An ambidexter have to learn things with each hand, too. But at beginning, he can choose a hand. He has not a feeling who says him to learn it with one special hand. He would feel good with both hands, so he has the choice. But after learning something with one hand, he must learn this thing with the other hand too, to be as good as with the other hand, of course! You can not mirror your skills as an ambidexter, you have to learn skills separated with both hands. But as an ambidexter, you have not this dominant and non-dominant feeling at beginning. In Addition, an ambidexter seems to be a cross-dominant person when he learned different things with one hand and learn other things with the other hand. But still he is not a cross-dominant person. He is still an ambidexter. An Ambidexter has this non-dominant feeling, too, but that is just after learning and practicing one thing with one hand. So when he switch after learning and practice, he has this feeling because he is more skillful with the other hand. So if you do not want to seem like a cross-dominant person as an ambidexter, you have to learn all things with both hands, so that no hand have more skill while practice an ability. Like right- and left-handed persons, an ambidexter has to practice his hands, too! And he has to practice both hands to have skill with each hand, of course. Your left-hand and your right-hand are not the same in many things when you mirror them, that applies to right- left-handers and ambidexters. (Sorry for my german-english ;-) ) from Martin Ahlersmeyer.

counter-research
About this external link "Ambidextrous People Are Brain Damaged". It says that 1.ambidexterity is always the result of brain damage and 2. ambidextrous people have impaired brain functioning. Apart from the blow-to-one's-self-esteem-issue, I highly doubt this– look at all the high-achieving ambidextrous people (he includes left-handers forced to switch as brain-damaged ambidexters). Does anyone know of any links to counter-research?Dawnfire 09:56, 16 July 2006 (UTC) And as for the other link, the one relating 'handedness' to political views– If this isn't an obvious piece of 'junk science' I'm right-handed! Can't we do better than these?203.166.63.4 10:36, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I added those links several months ago. While I also doubt them, there has been very little formal study of ambidexterity.  The alternative was to link to even more dubious blogs. Durova 12:17, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Sports section
I actually added some of the sports section so I'm as guilty as anyone of not doing this. We really should try and source the sportperson's being ambidextrous - if we define ambidextrous and being able to use the left and the right-hand/foot to some degree. Ronne O'Sullivan for example has played whole snooker tournaments left-handed.

In tennis, a perfect example of a player who is ambidextrous is Maria Sharapova.

It says she's right handed with a double-handed backhand (like most players today) on her own page. Can anyone name any tennis players or golf players who have played who games/sets/holes/tournaments both left and right-handed? Mglovesfun 01:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

One of the Jenson brothers serves both lefty and righty.

Ambidexterity and Cross-dominance
It seems to me that the earlier merge of ambidexterity and cross-dominance was not a good idea. They are not synonymous, for one thing. Second, most of the article is about actual ambidexterity, not the other types of cross-dominance. To me it just didn't make intuitive sense reading the article. Since when do articles get merged if one is a type of another?

For the record, I think I have cross-dominance as I write with my right, throw with my left, kick with my left, do other sports with my right, etc. But they are not interchangable, except for tennis/squash and bowling, which I could do with either hand if I practiced equally with both. I also have trouble knowing my left from my right in general.

ONe more thing: I am not clear from reading the article whether someone who trains themselves to be ambidextrous become ambidextrous only for the things he/she has practiced, such as tooth brushing, or if over time everything becomes ambi. I would guess that it only works for what you practice; in which case, this does not seem like true ambidexterity. For that, if I start something new - say, playing the guitar, using left and right should both come naturally and be of equal difficulty. I am by no means an expert, but the article left these things unclear to me. --Chinawhitecotton 05:45, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree with this, and suggest that Ambidexterity be split from this topic. However I disagree with your last statement, though it may vary person to person, I am right-handed by birth, however after practicing writing with my left in my late teens and doing so for several years afterward, I found myself able to do more things with my left then just writing, such as mouse usage, usage of scissors, saws, forks, knives and other rudimentary tools are just as comfortable in either hand now. --CS


 * * I agree as well. Ambidexterity has its own unique and separate topic. Kortoso (talk) 21:49, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Police officers
The example given in the opening paragraph about police officers who fire their sidearm with one hand and write with the other is not a good example. I write with my right hand and fire a pistol or rifle with my left hand---but this is due to the fact that I am left eye dominant, it has nothing to do with which hand I favor. I am cross-dominant, mind you, but firing a weapon has more to do with the eye (assuming one wants to hit one's target) than it does with the hand. ---Charles 01:11, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm an officer myself, and I'm cross dominant. I started shooting with my left instead of my right, because it felt more natural.  I didn't discover which eye was dominant until I had been shooting for some time.  So in my case, it is the hand that mattered most.  I'm sure I'm not alone out there, as everyone in my academy had purchased a holster before we all did that "which are is dominant" test.JN322 (talk) 17:13, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I was in the Air Force. I am an Ambi Shooter. Used to wow people swapping shoulders every shot with my shotgun when doing skeet. My handgun shooting is even and accurate for both hands. Lasik helps I guess... 8)

Mr. Marion Mills Campbell, Ca

Mixed-handed article
This article looks a lot like mixed-handed. Could they be merged, or even have one deleted? NightMaj 00:55, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I definitely think they should be merged. They have basically the same info, and the mixed-handed article even starts with the words "cross-dominance" as if that were the title of the article. Alienmercy 04:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree they should be merged- I'll do it. - Draeco 06:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Un-merging Ambidexterity
A year after this discussion was last broached, I also agree that the ambidexterity merge was ill-advised. Cross-dominance and ambidexterity are distinct topics and should have separate articles. Like the original merger, I'm going to get bold and reconstitute it as a full article. - Draeco 05:20, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

- Someone added "Stephanie Torres - Bad Mofo" to the list of Famous cross-dominant people. I'm not sure if that belongs there.

Thanks. Also, I don't have an account and I'm too lazy to make one because I'm a stupid ass without much to contribute. I don't know how to make a new post or whatever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.14.176.233 (talk) 03:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Baseball
Needs to be re-written. Most of the paragraph deals with left-handers and that belongs in left-handedness and sports, not here. The rest is primarily about ambidextrous players. It's too bad, because the one source [] seems to have a load of info.
 * Kortoso (talk) 22:22, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Some sources

 * Cross dominance in relation to learning disabilities]
 * Mixed-handed children more likely to have mental health, language and scholastic problems]
 * Mixed Dominance and Developmental Delay]
 * Kortoso (talk) 22:32, 20 October 2016 (UTC)