Talk:Cross (Justice album)

Two versions
Apparently there are two versions of Cross out -- the one released in 2007 and the one released during the Japanese tour in 2008. The new one contains slightly different mixes on some of the songs (on the 2008 version DANCE is 32 seconds shorter, Phantom I is 31 seconds shorter, The Party is 17 seconds longer, and DVNO is 17 seconds shorter), as well as an alternate verse in The Party and a different mix on the synth in Waters of Nazareth with less bass. Should we update the article with this? 68.106.223.15 (talk) 22:36, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you sure you're not confusing this with the first initial leak of the Cross album? The first leak of the album was extremely different than the CD. I've noticed that "D.A.N.C.E.", "Phantom", and "The Party" were different from what they were on CD back when it got released. Douglasr007 (talk) 17:32, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

List of samples
Is it really necessary to list several of the many many samples used in the record? The 5 listed aren't of particular importance (notability). It would really only make sense to include all of the samples, or none of them, and since it would be nearly impossible to list all of them, I think we should just get rid of the section altogether. 198.82.16.129 (talk) 19:14, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Three of the five listed are from the production notes of the album so they can stay on the page. However, I already stated that with the sampling section in the concept portion of the article. I don't know if I should move the sampling bit to the sampling section or just remove the sampling section and get the sampling info in the concept section. ♫ Douglasr007  ( talk )  15:52, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved per request. Favonian (talk) 20:06, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

– MOS:TM should use words instead of symbols. This results in a conflict with a different article with that word, so both should be moved to distinct names, and the two old names redirected to the disambiguation page Cross (disambiguation). 70.24.247.242 (talk) 03:50, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * † (album) → Cross (Justice album)
 * Cross (album) → Cross (City Harvest Church album)


 * Support as per WP:TITLE. Zarcadia (talk) 10:34, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support as above. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:41, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
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Assessment comment
Substituted at 12:27, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Uhh... What's the title of this album?
So a weird problem that I can't say I've ever seen here on Wikipedia is being genuinely unsure about what an album is called, or what we should call it. So, this article is titled Cross, but the album is consistently referred to as † everywhere else here. So I suppose with MOS:TM, it would make sense to correct this to remove the symbol name and refer to it by its text name. It is referred to as Cross in sources so there would be no dispute for this... In theory. But then suddenly, Justice enters the arena. What? This was never a self-titled album, was it? The lead rightfully states that it's considered self-titled on several countries' iTunes Stores. But now it's also in this country... and every country... and (almost) every digital download and streaming service. The album has been renamed to Justice. What do we do?  Lazz R  21:50, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Evidently, Google Play's store now calls it Cross. It's also Cross on Tidal. Deezer calls it Justice. I suspect that without any intervention from the band, there's going to be this discrepancy between how the title of this album appears on these sites and services. Speaking of the band, their web site lists the album as †, but the info page, whose URL contains the phrase cross album (sans the space), lists the album's title as Justice! Come on, folks, †, Cross, or Justice. Pick one! R36 (talk) 04:26, 26 May 2020 (UTC)