Talk:Crystal gazing

 (comment removed ) --Gbleem 17:52, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Merge to Scrying
I recommend Crystal gazing be merged to Scrying. Please comment at Talk:Scrying. —Quarl (talk) 2007-01-02 01:35Z 


 * I have voiced my opposition to this merge suggestion on the indicated page, and i repeat it here as well. As a token of my belief that the articles are independent and should not be merged, i have worked on adding information to this page that makes it distinctly different from the scrying page. cat yonwode Catherineyronwode 06:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * There is no meat in this article and you'd had since 2007 to add it. I support a merge. Kortoso (talk) 22:04, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Merge Crystal ball with Crystal gazing
I see no merit whatever in having two redundant articles on such closely related topics, whether concerned with scrying or not. I also would support merging both of the articles with Scrying, and reducing them to redirects. In fact, if nothing is done about it fairly soon, I'll do it myself. Since I have no respect for such fields beyond the fringe, anyone who disagrees had better forestall my action. Fair warning, I think? JonRichfield (talk) 15:53, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

OK Here goes
I am changing this article to a redirect to scrying. I don't think I have omitted much and have tried to achieve some degree of coherence. Critics certainly will not be satisfied, but then I invite them to improve matters. The field is so messy that I think that more intensive work would be a waste of time, but don't let me stop you. Apologists should bear in mind however, that WP has intolerant views of pseudoscience and superstitions, so better make sure that you get matters strictly in line with scientific views before wasting too much energy. JonRichfield (talk) 16:15, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * As found in 2019, this article is -- thankfully -- NOT a redirect to scrying. Crystallomancy is often used as a form of scrying, but crystal gazing encompasses more than scrying; it is also used for meditation, self-help, and casting magic spells, none of which are a form of scrying. See Secrets of the Crystal Silence League: Crystal Ball Gazing, The Master Key to Silent Influence, Missionary Independent Spiritual Church, 2019. (An edited posthumous collection consisting of Personal Lessons, Codes, and Instructions and Crystal Gazing: Lessons and Instructions in Silent Influence by Claude Alexander Conlin, compiled into one volume.)