Talk:Cuba/Archive 21

100% Literacy Rate? Really?
"Cuba has a 100% literacy rate..."

Although I find most of these facts to be... questionable, this is beyond far fetched. You are telling me that, if I asked every single last person on the island, they could ALL read and write. Be serious, please. --24.29.50.195 (talk) 02:51, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No, the United Nations reports the literacy rate. Got any reliable evidence otherwise? Andrewlp1991 (talk) 06:56, 23 November 2010 (UTC)


 * It's customary to round literacy rates (and statistics generally) to the nearest integer, not truncate them; furthermore, literacy rates don't apply to people under 15. So a 100% literacy rate doesn't imply "every single last person on the island" is literate; it implies only that no less than 99.5% of those over age 15 are. Your failure to understand this basic statistic, and how a country with compulsory and egalitarian education could achieve it, makes your finding the facts on this or any other page questionable utterly irrelevant. Tomblikebomb (talk) 22:40, 23 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Re the 100% figure, I've clarified that in the article using info taken from the alt data available by hovering the cursor over the "Country data" link in the cited source. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:15, 24 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I originally added that 100% literacy statement as it was also in the education in Cuba page. Anyways, for your complaint here is a link to the CIA saying that Cuba has a 99.8% literacy rate, and we all know the CIA has no pro-Cuba bias. (CIA)Like Tomblikebomb said the usual is to round to the closest whole percent, so 100%. Also here is a link to the same site as the first source was which has cuba at 100% in orange colour, and that no countries ever got a blue colour. (UNstats) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Passionless (talk • contribs) 08:39, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I fixed the CIA link... Passionless (talk) 19:36, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Human Development Index data is out of date
The link to the HDI page shows no data for Cuba since 2007. The sentence should to changed to past tense.


 * Cuba was the only nation in the world which met the WWF's definition of sustainable development in 2006; having a ecological footprint of less than 1.8 hectares per capita and a Human Development Index over 0.8.[16]

Kladon (talk) 04:35, 29 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmm, well for HDI apparently they decided not to rank Cuba in 2010 for some reason, but the [(2009 data) is 0.863 (Table H - page 171), and these (projections) show Cuba to be increasing in HDI, so the chance of them being under 8 anytime soon is low. Ah crap, I just found that Cuba's ecological footprint is 1.85...0.05 too high...(pg 74)...I made the change[[User:Passionless|Passionless]] (talk) 04:27, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

cuba is soo pretty there is a priness that lives ther and she rules the country and its all about live love rock and roll —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chesse100 (talk • contribs) 22:09, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * That's news to me. Last I checked, Fidel and Raul were both male. And I know next to nothing about their tastes in music. 198.151.130.69 (talk) 03:29, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I am very dubious about that. There is definitely not a princess because it is not an official monarchy. --70.62.142.66 (talk) 02:56, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Afro-Cuban Sahrawis
The source cited for the claim that Afro-Cubans are descended from Sahrawi refugees is misrepresented in the article. It does not claim that the Afro-Cuban population is partially comprised of Sahrawis, or that a significant number of Sahrawis immigrated to Cuba. Indeed, the article never even mentions the term "Afro-Cuban". Rather, it details someone's (dubious) claims about Sahrawi children from the Tindouf Camps being abducted to la Isla de Juventud for military training. Assuming that this is not all in his head, this explicitly means they are not Afro-Cuban according to that article; it states that Afro-Cubans are from sub-Saharan Africa. 96.26.213.146 (talk) 22:01, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Date of Columbus landing
BIG ERROR: Columbus landed on October 28, 1492 in Bariay, Holguin province, Cuba. It was not on October 12, 1492 in Baracoa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.74.36 (talk) 06:51, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I've edited the article attempting to clarify this and citing supporting sources, but there is some disagreement between sources whether the landing date in Cuba was 27 or 28 October. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:17, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

ERROR: " an island than called Guanahani ". It is correct: an island called by natives Guanahani, which he named San Salvador, located in the Bahamas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.74.36 (talk) 02:13, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Note: It is correct " an island called Guanahani". With no "than" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.74.36 (talk) 00:51, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Raul Castro!!!!
I wish u could edit the page to put in that Fidel is not in power anymore!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gizliz42 (talk • contribs) 20:33, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Havana Cathedral
The name of the cathedral in Havana is María de la Concepción Inmaculada and NOT st. Christopher. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.52.88.244 (talk) 09:53, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Cuba/US comparisons
I think that the Cuba / US comparisons (I noticed it particularly in the sections pertaining to public health -- life expectancy, birth rates, etc. -- it is likely to be found elsewhere in the article, due to encyclopedic consistency and human "error") give a sense that the two countries are somehow "linked", "entangled", or "dueling". If you want to talk about how that notion comes into play geopolitically, go for it. But the constant parenthetical reminders that "Hey! These countries are competing!" serve little purpose. The United States being a particularly powerful nation at this juncture in history does not make it the "benchmark" nation. It seems like it would be more appropriate to compare it to the countries who are ranked highest in such health categories, you know, since we don't fill the US article with comparisons to Cuba. Maybe Wikipedia has some allegiance to western nations because they are the only cultures sedentary enough to produce a generation of fact-checking chimps building a Babel out of information. 98.247.228.141 (talk) 12:14, 2 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Maybe you should have looked through the rest of the article and you would have found not a single other comparison to the US than the one that you found. I think the competition is in your head. Passionless (talk) 23:01, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, Cuba has always had a special relationship with the US. During the Colonial Period, Cubans looked up to the US as a modern nation, as opposed to backwards Spain, and until the 1959 Revolution of all LA countries Cuba was probably the closest to the US, economically, socially, & politically. It also had one of the highest standards of living in the Americas (though with incredible inequality), making comparisons wih the US very appropriaye. theBOBbobato (talk) 16:40, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Nickp147 (talk) 04:01, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Minor Spelling / Grammar Update
I apologize if this is the wrong place to post this. This is my first attempt to effect any changes to an article.

Under the "Spanish colonization" heading:

After first landing on an island than called Guanahani on October 12, 1492,[22] Christopher Columbus landed on Cuba's northeastern coast near what is now Baracoa on October 27[22] or 28.[23][24]

Should be "then," not "than."

Edict7 (talk) 01:03, 27 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Fixed, Passionless   -Talk  04:07, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Dictatorship still?
I was taught that Cuba is an absolute dictatorship. Is this true? People from Cuba try to escape to the United States because of the harsh conditions and use Florida as the gateway. Most of the Cubans either don't make it or get sent back. I just want to know if that is credible information or not. —Posted from a computer that is not mine 21:26, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

yea, it is. its been passed for fidel castro to his brother but not much changed really. 24.228.24.97 (talk) 03:18, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

In this article we see "removing the dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista," and "U.S. backed right wing regimes, many of them dictatorial" and "the tyrannical dictator Rafael Trujillo" but no reference to the current Cuban government being a dictatorship. I know there have been many long arguments on these Talk pages about how to describe the Cuban government but there seems to be a double standard if Batista, Trujillo and U.S. backed right wing regimes can all be described as dictatorial but Cuba can't. Ardmhacha (talk) 21:38, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Cuba has definetaly been a dictatorship since Fidel became it's leader. But this did not happen immediately after the revolution in 1959. Thus I think the text "and installing an alternative dictatorship led by Fidel Castro." is misleading and incorrect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_Cuba). The revolution was not about Castro and it did not become about Castro for quite a while. --LPU0302 (talk) 13:13, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Dead link
There is a dead link in the current article. It's reference #13 ("Changing Castro's Cuba". The Post and Courier. April 12, 2008. http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2008/apr/12/changing_castros_cuba36977/. Retrieved August 22, 2009.) from this passage, "Between 1953 and 1959 the Cuban Revolution occurred, removing the dictatorship[11] of Fulgencio Batista, and installing an alternative dictatorship[12][13] led by Fidel Castro." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Somedifferentstuff (talk • contribs) 15:26, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Alvin13579, 15 April 2011
Where it says ... ($16.70 per month).. It should say.... ($16.70 per week day)

Alvin13579 (talk) 18:28, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Have you got a reliable source so that we can verify that? Everything in Wikipedia has to be verifiable and the data in the article is currently sourced. Woody (talk) 20:50, 15 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I too came here because I was baffled by these numbers... How can Cuba have a nominal GDP/capita of $5,984 if the average wage is $16.70 a month? If the active population is, say, 50% of the total population then a GDP/capita of ~$6,000 would put the average income at about $1,000 per month, or $33 a day... $16,70 a month (way below the extreme poverty line!) would put Cuba on par with the most wretched parts of Africa - that doesn't look very plausible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.247.85.103 (talk) 00:27, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

fidel castro was a leader of cuba the we tried to assasianate him —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.94.175.189 (talk) 17:56, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Ethnic groups
Write 1.02 % Asian. (2002 Census) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.66.64 (talk) 02:36, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Link to US
The United States is mentioned several times in the article although no link is visible. I can't fix this since the article is (semi-)protected. Please do crazy schtuff?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.196.62.48 (talk) 06:52, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Anti-Cuban bias
I see that the section about Human Rights has an anti-Cuban bias and — even in the United States — there are people trying to refute it. Please Wikipedia, here the other side!

Not only that but it says Between 1953 and 1959 the Cuban Revolution occurred, removing the dictatorship[11] of Fulgencio Batista, and installing an alternative dictatorship[12][13] led by Fidel Castro.

There is a lot of problems with that

A.)The sources mainly talk about modern Cuba

B.)Those are USA — and USA-biased — newspapers. Thanks, Steve T. R.! -- Some Dude With AUserName  (talk with me!) 20:47, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed -- as soon as my account has enough edits, believe me I will be trying to make some serious bias corrections on this page. 173.3.41.6 (talk) 10:35, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Please don't take this as an implication that you would change what you perceive to be an unbalanced WP:POV by editing it to unbalance it differently but, since your mention of having enough edits suggests that you may be relatively new to WP, I'll suggest that you read WP:DUE before making your "serious bias corrections". Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:09, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

mistaken to associate "El Paredón" with "extrajudicial executions"
quote from article: 'The Cuban government has been accused of numerous human rights abuses including torture, arbitrary imprisonment, unfair trials, and extrajudicial executions (also known as "El Paredón")'

The phrase "El Paredón" (the wall) or "al paredón!" (to the wall!) are associated with the so-called "revolutionary executions" which actually did involve trials (televised trials I believe, as with the executions) where the phrase "al paredón!" was chanted by enthusiastic crowds. I am aware of the allegations of an extrajudicial execution under Raul Castro in '59 or '60, as well as the complaints by human rights groups that capital punishment has been applied somewhat quickly without time for appeal and after closed trials (as the US Guantanamo tribunals), but that is not quite "extrajudicial" (similarly the US Guantanamo proceedings have also not been categorized as such). The issue of "extrajudicial executions" in Cuba, as with alleged "torture," is obviously quite complicated (and for that matter, not on the scale of many US clients in the region, only the political prisoners and censorship issues approach that kind of verifiable scale) so it's important to take care with how we characterize these issues. If you look at the talk page for "Human Rights in Cuba" you can see that many users, myself included, have complained about the way these very sensitive and complicated issues are treated. And in this specific case I've just mentioned, it's inaccurate to associate the phrase "el paredón" or "al paredón!" with the alleged extrajudicial executions -- they apply to the post-revolution executions of those who, as alleged in the "revolutionary trials" (hardly "extrajudicial" circumstances), were collaborators with Batista and the Batista-era CIA. Of course there has been some international controversy (mostly in the US) surrounding the revolutionary executions themselves, and more widespread international controversy surrounding the cases of capital punishment applied to, say, the boat hijackers several years ago (again, judicially controversial though not "extrajudicial"). And capital punishment itself is regarded as inhumane, period, by many people. Perhaps the use of capital punishment could be cited as one of the human rights issues in the opening sentence, and if anyone really wants to keep the phrase "el paredón" they can do it there? But as it is now, it's a vaguely parenthesized and definitely inaccurate association that only serves to confuse people's understanding of several different complicated issues. Can someone please remove, or add capital punishment to the list and move the parenthesized reference to after that? 173.3.41.6 (talk) 10:33, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * (imo the human rights section, like the human rights in cuba article, needs some work, seeing as how these issues are very complicated and sensitive and yet suffer from brusque treatment in both articles). 173.3.41.6 (talk) 10:33, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

First line of article: "socialist state"
I think the first line is odd in tone - usually the rudimentary description just cites countries as "a country". The article on Finland says "nordic country", on North Korea "a country in East Asia", while the article on Venezuela says "tropical country". To define Cuba by its socialism is to me slightly odd. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.143.105.238 (talk) 13:47, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * just came here myself purely by chance, and was actually shocked to see that. While i agree that the governmental status must be in the first paragraph, as its highly notable, to primarily categorize it as a socialist state, and not simply an "island nation" per jamaica, as per your other examples, is highly POV. If no one comments to defend the current form, i will change it in the next few weeks.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 21:15, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * agreed, dubious and suspicious. 173.3.41.6 (talk) 10:33, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I did this change. however, the lede should mention some important, highly notable facts: the name of the leader who replaced batista (gee, who was that?), the role he had as an international figure putting cuba on the world stage, the connection between his regime and the glowing stats on literacy, etc, already in the lede, and the cuban missile crisis. although most people reading this would know this, we are of course writing an encyclopedia for the least learned among us, not a scholarly work for those who already know the big arc of the story here. castro doesnt appear in the article until the section on the revolution, and the only picture is rather POV, as he was at least a little more than an apparatchik of the soviet bloc.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:57, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

non-neutral pov
I am tempted to flag the entire article because of the degree of its bias, but it is a huge undertaking to try to shepard an article towrads objectivity, especially "top-tier" articles like those of nations. the humans rights section is a good example, where even with some work it does not provide voice for the primary people characterized by the document. Cuban government itself has had to at least stand forth and deny, or in some fashion talk around these problems. Very likely there has been some degree of acceptance of responsibility. These sorts of statements are essential to the section, and should probably be the framework around which the citations actually used are hung, to limit the overreaching nature of the bureaucracy and its claims. What we have here instead is activist journalism parading as authoritative source and an honest encyclopedia article. The economy section is just as bad. The sources sited are not themselves neutral, and nowhere througout entire sections do we see reasonable coverage from what must for an article on a nation and sections on their politcal and economic history must be the primary view -- Their own. --—  r obbie  page talk 23:26, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Mecobio, 4 August 2011
It should be pointed out, though, that racism was used during the so called Spanish–American war from both USA and Spain to justify the war, claiming that the island of Cuba was full of uncivilized people of African descent, c.f. yellow journalism. Hence, the image of a black-Cuba stack in the minds of many people and remains until today, even within some academic circles. The Haitian revolution had a negative impact among white population in the island. They were reluctant to the independence of the Cuba until the ratio white/black was larger than one. Another myth, partially disseminated by the Cuban anthropologist Fernando Ortiz, is that the Cuban aborigines were exterminated completely, to favorite the cause of the African descent, c.f. the work of José Barreiro.

Mecobio (talk) 22:33, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done:There are many problems with this, first you have not shown exactly what you want changed. Second, you have not provided any reliable sources for the change you desire.  Finally, you have not established consensus on the talk page.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  23:01, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Marking as answered Jnorton7558 (talk) 10:16, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Categories?

 * I'm pretty sure this article used to have some. Maybe they got lost via an editing mistake, but I looked through the history and I'm not sure which version of the article to revert to.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 00:35, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

POV Flag, 4 August 2011
As evidenced by previous entries on the talk page citing numerous specific examples of lack of neutrality throughout the entire article, I have flagged this article as having its neutrality in dispute. Specifically, there seems to be a consistent bias in the article against the Cuban Revolution, for example describing the replacement of Fulgencio Batista with an "alternative dictatorship" in the introduction. Urbanxplorer (talk) 00:33, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * But the current government is widely considered a dictatorship. -- Jorge Peixoto (talk) 13:40, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * POV flag by a socialist can be hardly considered neutral. --62.201.203.18 (talk) 07:21, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * His political views do not stop him being correct in this case. ValenShephard (talk) 10:36, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * How exactly? Tell us how this article has misrepresented sources. Saying simply "this is non-neutral" without explanation doesn't cut it. -- Jorge Peixoto (talk) 22:58, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I have in fact just removed the tag. Complaints of bias must be justified - you have to say how does the article misrepresent the sources. Saying simply "this article is against the Cuban revolution" is far too vague. -- Jorge Peixoto (talk) 23:06, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Just a note that I undid Jorge's edit for technical reasons - I have zero opinion on this article, but he seems to have accidentally deleted too much, leaving the article truncating mid-ref-tag. Jorge, if you wouldn't mind, could you go back and re-do what you were going for but double-check that you catch the right stuff this time around? A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 00:59, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I think it was a technical error. I double-checked this time. And thank-you for helping! -- Jorge Peixoto (talk) 23:20, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Wikifiki321123, 20 September 2011


Wikifiki321123 (talk) 15:23, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No request made-- Jac 16888 Talk 15:34, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Population of Cuba
The population of Cuba was 11,241,161 inhabitants in 2010. There is an error in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.248.80 (talk) 00:18, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Infant Mortality Rate
Cuba's infant mortality rate should be explained by the fact that any abortion is terminated showing any signs of difficulty, and resultingly that Cuba's abortion rate is quite high at 0.71. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.41.34.45 (talk) 14:03, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

French Haiti's Slave Revolt and the affect on Cuba
In 1804 black slaves gained there freedom in a sucessful revolt in haiti, many wealthy french plantation owners fled to cuba in the years following. There had been few african slaves in cuba before 1804 and it was many former owners of plantations in haiti whom began to popularise the slave trade in cuba. The plantation owners also began to grow sugar in cuba.The Spanish when first settling cuba planned for vinyards however the humidity meant grapes would strugle to grow with the sugar plantations started by the french rum (rum is made from boiling sugar) became a large industry in Cuba, and still is today however little sugar is grown in cuba because during the second half of the last century the were bad harvests, so most cuban rum is made from imported sugar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhinnodanny1 (talk • contribs) 20:33, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

List of Cubans
Under "See Also" there is a link titled "List of Cubans". Reading that gives the impression it lists all Cubans. Should the link be changed to something more like "List of notable and well-known Cubans", as is seen in the linked article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.139.90 (talk) 04:29, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Statistics
Hi, I am Marcel601 from the German Wikipedia. Altough I strongly disagree with the content of the article (Yes, I reads really like it was written by the FBI), I want to give you a few easy chances to improve your Cuba articles. I made a lot of diagrams and statistical charts in english (!) which you can add to your articles.

Look at the german version of Economy of Cuba, Cuba and Ferrocarilles de Cuba. I would like to see the womens parliament seat-diagram in your main article =) --62.224.78.3 (talk) 02:27, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Population
Cuba: 11,241,161 (December 31, 2010). Source: Anuario Estadistico de Cuba 2010.
 * Updated. See this edit. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 01:15, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Errors
Distance from Cuba to the U.S.: 150 km (93 mi). Sources: The World Factbook and Anuario Estadistico de Cuba 2010. Note: 90 mi= 145 km.
 * Geography: Some mistakes. Read the main article: Geography of Cuba. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.125.254 (talk) 01:17, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Population of Cuba
Oficina Nacional de Estadisticas de Cuba (Official Estimate/December 31, 2011): 11,247,925 (www.one.cu) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.125.218 (talk) 04:45, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Needs more
Map. 211.144.127.245 (talk) 06:20, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Sources for Algeria and Guinea-Bissau
I can't edit the article yet, but can someone add these as a sources for the mention of Algeria and Guinea-Bissau in the Cuba section? Thanks.

ColaXtra (talk) 14:09, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Done it myself now! ColaXtra (talk) 14:39, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Why are there so many un-cited and unsubstantiated claims? Some of these claims are just absurd--that 1% of the population is a "substancial" asian population? Why can't these statements be marked?

Article neutrality
Earlier comments:

Absolutely terrible article Did the FBI write this article? It is utterly lacking in neutrality, and not surprisingly is written from a very biased pro-capitalist, pro USA perspective. Not surprisingly it is locked, so anybody well informed on the topic cannot correct the propaganda on this shit article. This is a great example of why Wikipedia is a piece of shit when it comes to unbiased, honest research and writing. This article must be written by all the Cuban exiles squatting, angrily in Miami since they got kicked off the island they ran like a slave labor camp, an oligarchy. Absolutely awful article here, really reflects poorly on Wikipedia that this shit is passed of like encyclopaedic information. I doubt anyone from Cuba has written anything here. Again, right wing Americans and neo-cons wrote this rubbbish article.
 * Wake up. Cubans from Cuba have no chance to write anything here, as the illegal communist terror "government" based in Havana doesnt allow them to access Wikipedia. --maxval (talk) 16:19, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Horrible Article I agree with the others' sentiments. The article is terrible. It reads like a rant entitled "1001 Reasons Why You Shouldn't Care Why Your Government Forbids You From Traveling to Cuba". Seriously! A good majority of this article just rambles on and on about horrid living conditions and persecution and human rights abuses. It makes the US look down right saintly in its treatment of the country. I think the CIA's own page on the country is more objective than this POS article. It's not anywhere near being an objective educational source. This is what happens when you allow Americans to write anything. They can't even locate their own 50 states on a map. How can you anyone trust them to write about another country at all - never mind writing about Cuba?!--Snaptaculous (talk) 03:11, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Agreement I agree and believe the article needs a thorough read through of its information. I don't recommend swearing and rage however and maxval, you appear to be an established editor and should know better than to feed into the Pro American view and take a neutral stand point. One part which I found laughable was the assistance of weapons to Cuba from the USSR, which was written as "Cuba had become a client state of the Soviet Empire". Very Pro-US POV without actual discussion, for example CIA activities, US attacks to try and assassinate Fidel Castro, attack on Cuban population etc. We need more sources.--JTBX (talk) 18:34, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Laughable Statistics The "Health" section of the article gives a ridiculous statistic that "Cuban doctors make $15 a month." That statistic is refuted right at the top of the article, which sites a Per capita GDP of $5,000, amounting to $600 per month. The statistic sites a right-wing blog review of a Michael Moore movie and clearly has no factual basis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Croato87 (talk • contribs) 03:34, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * right-wing, left-wing, capitalist, neo-con? Can you children take your little labels and overly simplistic view of politics to the Huffington Post forums, or something?  We are trying to improve the quality of wikipedia articles here.  ps The US installed Castro.  Eisenhower called him the Abraham Lincoln of the Caribbean --Hutcher (talk) 19:15, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


 * A personal opinion. I lived in Cuba for 6 years. And the article is indeed not neutral. It has pro-communist bias. (maxval (talk) 05:04, 4 June 2012 (UTC))

I think the article is fairly balanced. I haven't seen anything that has been too inaccurate from what I know. I'm not an expert on Cuba although I have read a fair amount it and my qualifications are a MA in Spanish Lit. The issue that Maxval expresses is appropriately written about in the 'Human Rights' issue of the article although she doesn't exactly point where there is a pro-communist bias. Markgerard2020 (talk) 06:59, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Suggest specific changes Personal opinions are just that. Articles should not be written based upon them. Factually speaking, the last sentence "In 2006, Cuba was the only nation in the world which met the WWF's definition of sustainable development; having an ecological footprint of less than 1.8 hectares per capita and a Human Development Index of over 0.8 for 2007.[17]" in the summary is ommitting important details and may be inaccurate. The WWF source on page 21 and 35 is actually a paraphrace from self reported statistics from Cuba to the UN in 2003. The date should at least be revised. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.21.145.13 (talk) 18:57, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

"I agree that we must disagree" Unbiased information is at times a slap in the face when it happens to be an inconvenient truth, isn't it? I beleive the article represents some factualities about Cuba that most of the world either is ignorant of or refuses to acknowledge. Which ever your case may be, for those of you who have leftist sentiments, leave your emotions for some political forum. The fact remains that this article is dead on when it speaks about the cuban system. General life in cuba under a communist government that, not surprisingly favors only communist members (yes, not all cubans choose to be a communist there), and gives preferential treatment to tourists rather than it's own people. It is an ugly system and only those who have lived under it may speak of it's true nature, for they have been there and know what hell on earth is. Don't ever presume to know about something that which you know nothing of. I couldn't have written a better article myself. An example is when it speaks of the Human Rights violations. My grandfather was imprisoned three times because of his religious beliefs and no other reason, political or otherwise. How's that for unfair? Try talking with and interviewing some actual cuban people who have left Cuba for the "imperialistic" U.S. Lastly, I'll say this much, if Cuba was so wonderful, than how is it that thousands of people, my father included, have braved the seas and risked losing there lives just to get to a country that does not opress them like Cuba does? Meditate on that for a minute or two. (My sources are my family, both the ones HERE and OVER THERE.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.93.84.253 (talk) 15:00, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Batista
In your article on Cuba you forgot to mention the large amounts of support that the US government sent to Batista's regime. This led to the large amount of hostility between the US government and Cuba. The US government here by showed a bias in favour of Batista's government compiared to the later socialist regime.You also failed to say that the US government didn't just put the trade embargo on Cuba because of the human rights record the main reason that the US government placed trade embargoes on Cuba was because of the socialist regime and the way It traded whith soviet Russia. Your article shows a bias in favour of the point of America.Not showing how the government of the states supported the evil autocratic dictatorship of bartista. while putting a trade embargo on a symalar state.In this way your article is unjust in favour of the US government.(then again if you did say something against the US government it would probably be scensored) The anonymous reader2.96.185.133 (talk) 22:45, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Time Zones 8

 * CST
 * CDT

The current link on CST says "Cuba Time", but it redirects to the UTC−05:00 page.

Thanks. -- CrimsonViking (talk) 01:56, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:33, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Hypocrisy
I am sorry for any spelling mastakes in my previous comment (entitled Batista). I am writing this comment as I think I failed to highlight sufficiently the amount of cuban history the author of this article missed out ( the whole piriod of time from batistas coup to fiddel castro's assumption of power). The article in question fails to evaluate the US assisted, bloody dictatorship of Batista with what came afterwards.( it is understandable that those in the US fail to judge the significance of the propoganda they are exposed to).the evedence is clear as you will probably find if you talked to the majority of Cubans who lived under Castro and Batista that the gangland corruption evoked from the bloody years of US backed batista were(in terms of human rights) far far far worse than the mere mass murder of casto's regime.I suspect I also failed to mention the hipocracy of the US government; in the aforementioned article the writer mentioned a quote of the US government I believe it might have gone along the lines of "the trade inbargo we have enforced is because of the human rights record" now after hearing that I assumed oh they will enforce a trade embargo against china too.hmm I don't believe the US has such a good human rights record iether ,oh and while about it you could close the area in Cuba were most of these supposed human rights violations take place god damned Guantanamo bay yer it happens that that mothership of good will and vertue the US doesn't have the greatest human rights record itself infact it was only a few weeks ago that might be presedent Mitt Romney insulted the hard working culture of the Palestinian people... I can now truly say that the United States is a declining nation (although they may not realise it).

Ps sorry for any mastakes in grammar and spelling.00:06, 5 November 2012 (UTC)78.149.195.101 (talk)
 * First, I reverted the first seven times you repeated the exact same post on this talk page. If you are trying to get editors' attention, that's not the way to do it. If you are trying to piss editors off, you're off to a good start. Second, there is no "the author of this article". There are many, many authors to this article. This is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Click here to see the beginning of the list of editors who have contributed to this article. Third, since you seem to have an axe to grind, I strongly suggest reading a few of the policies that editors here are required to adhere to, starting with WP:V, WP:NPOV, WP:NOR, WP:RS, WP:CON, and WP:5P; after you thoroughly read those policies, I'll be happy to suggest a few more important ones. And finally, find a few reliable sources to support your ideas, suggest your ideas here with a list of those sources, and do so in a more collaborative and less hostile tone. Then we might be able to work with you. Cresix (talk) 00:20, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

This article needs a huge upgrade
This article doesn't include the migratory reforms, or anything about the Guidelines for the economic and social policies implemented by the Communist Party and government.CubanEkoMember (talk) 14:25, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Yellow rice.
When is that picture of yellow rice and black beans getting erased, again? The matter was settled in the "Cuban Food" subarticle, but managed to hold itself out here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.81.4.207 (talk) 06:35, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

War against the Bandits
Hi, so I just copy-edited this article, but the title is just hilariously POV charged. I know very little about the subject, but it's obvious it should be renamed into something else. --Niemti (talk) 00:11, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

doesn't help me
I was doing my research homework on Cuba but it doesn't provide the necessary information — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.127.1.184 (talk) 16:38, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Could you be a little more specific? What "necessary information" are you looking for? Oz Man Can (talk) 18:45, 27 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Your complaint about your article doesn't help us. LudicrousTripe (talk) 23:48, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia's users will not do your homework for you. Cresix (talk) 02:11, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Independent online newspaper in Cuba?
Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: Cuban dissident blogger Yoan Sanchez returned to Havana after spending three months in Europe and the United States. The travels were preparing to launch independent online newspaper in Cuba, according to the Miami Herald web site.78.2.65.78 (talk) 14:33, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Untitled
There's a preposition missing. It says "Abolition in Cuba began the final third of the 19th century, and was completed in the 1880s.", it should say ""Abolition in Cuba began in the final third [...] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.130.27.178 (talk) 19:17, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

History of Cuba
I would like to brutally cut this section down to size. A few crisp summaries regarding the re-jigging of the economy, the welfare efforts, and US hostility etc. should be fine, and the rest of the material can be migrated to the History of Cuba. Objections? LudicrousTripe (talk) 22:13, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

I would just like to point out the fragment that states that in Cuba a special Permission is required to leave the country. The law has been changed and this is no longer true so please update this. The only people that need a permit to leave are those that hold valuable information about the country, not just political and military but also scientific like those form the Biology labs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rotius (talk • contribs) 10:55, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree that a reduction in size would be desirable, and the current version does not adequately summarise the history of this country, especially for the 20th century.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 17:07, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Need to update part of the etymology section
I strongly recommend to take out the paragraph "Authors who believe that Christopher Columbus was Portuguese state that Cuba was named by Columbus for the ancient town of Cuba in the district of Beja in Portugal.[24][25]" from the Etymology section.

In my opinion this is a bit of misleading information based on opinions on this subject created not by Cuban intellectuals but foreign scholars. In order to make those sentences look official, not one, but two links have been provided ([24] and [25]), but Cuban historians and scientist have studied this matter for centuries and they have always concluded that the origin of the name is from the Taino Arawak language.

The first name admiral Columbus gave the island Cuba was "Juana", to honor the Queen of Spain. It was only after they constantly heard words like "cuba" and "coabana" (or cubana) that they changed the name.

Also, let’s not forget that Columbus was under the impression he had arrived to the island of Cipango (Japan) near India, the admiral himself wrote in his diary he believed the emperor or Kahn lived on the center of the land in place called Cuba-nacan, which meant "land in the center" or "land in the center surrounded by mountains". Later studies have shown that Cubanacán was indeed one of the ancient Taino chieftains on the island. Like "Cuba", or "Cubanacan" many places is the island retain their original ancient Arawak language such us: Camagüey, Baracoa, Havana, etc.

None of the reasons I explain have been considered on the paragraph, no reference to Cuban authors, instead it has been filled with a modern European theory that brings down centuries of linguistic studies done on the island itself. Similar issue I have seen on the article regarding the word Tobacco. Lezumbalaberenjena (talk) 23:09, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Human Development Index.
The HDI of Cuba is 0.780 (59th in the world.) The article as written has two conflicting statements about the HDI being over 0.855 in the third paragraph?

see http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/hdr2013_en_summary.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.227.148 (talk) 15:56, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

added text
I added this:

The new economic reforms effectively created a new economic system, referred by some as the "New Cuban Economy"

I hope that's ok KVDP (talk) 18:26, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Missing a word in paragraph about Human Rights
Under the heading: Human rights [edit]

The first sentence below is missing the word "not", is it not?!

Until 2013, citizens could leave or return to Cuba without first obtaining official permission in addition to their passport and the visa requirements of their destination.[115] On January 13, 2014, Cuba lifted these restrictions for most citizens, allowing travel to anywhere in the world, including the US.[121] The membership of Cuba in the United Nations Human Rights Council has received criticism.[122]

Regards Judy B — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.220.79.60 (talk) 13:00, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Significance of "single-party" mention
According to the current Cuban constitution, political parties are allowed to exist, but not allowed to campaign. As is obvious from the Wikipedia page List of political parties in Cuba, there are several other legal, existing, active political parties. Political parties are not involved in the selection of candidates in the elections or in campaigns for the Assembly. This includes the Communist Party. The Communist Party is not an electoral party and it is not a requirement that one be a member of the Communist Party of Cuba, or any party, to be elected to any position. Almost half Cuba’s National Assembly consists of people that are not members of the Communist Party. The Communist Party doesn’t propose, support or elect candidates, and the Communist Party does not decide on the formation or composition of the Government.

With this and the list of political parties in Cuba in mind, I would like to question the validity and relevance of the claim that Cuba is a "single-party state". 195.169.151.253 (talk) 12:59, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Is nobody going to comment on this? 212.178.213.130 (talk) 10:59, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

•Cuba is a Single-party state, this is a recognized fact by us, the cubans, and is one of the ideological principles of the current political system.The thing is that the Communist Party is quite different to those existing in others countries in the way that is not electoral, but pretty the same thing in the way that represents the interests of a social class, the worker class in this case. Why is Cuba a single-party country? And what make unique or different the Communist Party to those others which already exists in Cuba? The fact that is the only party recognized by the Constitution as the lead force, a superior institution that serves as guide of the cuban society in his path to socialism.In fact, the Communist Party exists in a symbiosis with the State itself, every level, institution, organization or structure of the State is well connected to the Communist Party, not just because a lot of workers are PCC militants, but the political-ideological formation of the workers is carried by the PCC in every institution(by UJC in centers involving youngs like colleges), also 'cause every aspect is analized(economical, social,etc) by the PCC and finally, the direction of the cuban society is first debated by PCC before get the people approval. So, the main difference is, PCC conduces and participates in every aspect of the cuban society, and the others almost invisible parties just exists as a relieve to political anxiety, but with poor to none real participation in the building of the cuban society. For the record I'm a UJC member(this is the young wing of the PCC) and I'm not against political participation, most cuban aren't...we are having an interesting debate inside our organization looking for more flexibility, more debate and changes about political concerns in our country, now, to change the whole political system is another thing, we are not pursuing that. Hope I've been helpful....Lil Cuban91 (talk) 03:57, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2015
There is a broken unit conversion in the first paragraph: "To the north of Cuba lies the United States ({{convert|150|km|0|abbr=on} away)" It's probably due to a missing curly brace.

Cilice (talk) 23:48, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done thanks for spotting Cannolis (talk) 00:56, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

US-Cuba Deal article??
Why isn't a wiki article up yet on the US-Cuba deal? Its very significant!Mhoppmann (talk) 23:31, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

P.S- Did not know where to put this question, so I put it here.
 * I have linked it to the Cuban Thaw, which gives more information. Wwheaton (talk) 06:26, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

I believe this article is biased.
Many Americans are clicking here because of the thaw in relations. The article shouldn't be biased. It needs work.
 * In what way is it biased? 190.218.130.13 (talk) 16:28, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

A rather biased view of cuban history
I think this article on Cuba needs some editing to take out the US-bias. No words about the US Mafiosi in Cuba, nothing about the Batista dictatorship, which was the ultimate reason for the cuban revolution. Just have a look at the Spanish article on Cuba, which is by far more detailed.
 * Good point. Do you have good sources to start with? 190.218.130.13 (talk) 16:29, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

I agree, wikipedia needs to edit this article. It fails to mention that the invading ex-pat Cubans were trained by the CIA to disguise USA involvement etc.. Also fails to highlight that the USA was more angry about Castro about the Nationalization of USA property and business in Cuba that they were about the alleged executions of political dissenters-the number on this site is far higher that I have ever seen mentioned elsewhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.0.69.194 (talk) 14:17, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Inclusion of Human Rights Abuses in Introduction Section
The Cuban human rights situation should be mentioned in the introduction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhexplorer (talk • contribs) 18:29, 4 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Why? It isn't for other countries. For example, the United States kidnap and torture program isn't mentioned in the lead of its article. --YeOldeGentleman (talk) 01:18, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

History section - "Virginia"?
"Virginia" is mentioned two times in the history section, but here I get confused, what is it referred to? The British colony in North America? If anyone of you knows, would you mind making it clearer and adding a link to the article about the colony?

Se examples from the section:


 * "By the mid-18th century, its colonists held 50,000 slaves, compared to 60,000 in Barbados; 300,000 in Virginia, both British colonies; and 450,000 in French Saint-Domingue, which had large-scale sugar cane plantations"
 * "The population of Cuba in 1817 was 630,980, of which 291,021 were white, 115,691 free people of color (mixed-race), and 224,268 black slaves. This was a much higher proportion of free blacks to slaves than in Virginia, for instance, or the other Caribbean islands."

Thank you!

Best regards. /EriFr (talk) 10:40, 5 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Is this a troll? How can you not have heard of Virginia? --YeOldeGentleman (talk) 01:19, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Haha. No. I was confused for one second (I thought that perhaps there were several places named or called Virginia) but I quickly found the answer and decided to add links without waiting for any response. I have heard of Virginia, but I admit that I am not familiar in detail with its colonial history. As an example, I did not know that it once encompassed Bermuda. /EriFr (talk) 13:07, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Media
Almost nothing about media, which are part of the government.Xx236 (talk) 13:15, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

"Cuba is ranked very high"
It is ranked high and low. Such text is non-neutral.Xx236 (talk) 11:56, 23 July 2015 (UTC) "Human rights" - the lsat information is about 2010, what has happened since?Xx236 (talk) 11:59, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Lots of the "facts" in the article are Castro-propaganda. If "facts" are based on Cuban government sources (and that includes secondary sources cited that use them), then this should be made very clear. --41.151.200.157 (talk) 20:25, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The facts are from neutral international organisations. AusLondonder (talk) 20:31, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

I would like you show the truth about Cuba, no lies
I would like to show the truth about Cuba, considering I go to Cuba, I was born to Cubans, I speak Spanish. I believe I have stronger claim of information than any other user that comes here and edits.

Cuba has a dictatorial regime that has been ruling for 57 years, they have uprooted the lives of families in Cuba,causing them to leave their countries.

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Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2015
Please fix the section entitled "Revolution and Communist Party Rule". There is a paragraph that says the Bay of Pigs invasion was initiated by President Eishenhower, but it was President Kennedy that began the invasion in 1960. The Section should read "In March 1960, President Kennedy gave his approval to a CIA plan to arm and train a group of Cuban refugees to overthrow the Castro regime." Instead of Eisenhower, as it reads now.

RadiKoronda (talk) 20:11, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done:. Kennedy was not President until January 1961.  Eisenhower was the President in 1960.  RudolfRed (talk) 21:26, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2015
Joe Buntick (talk) 19:28, 5 December 2015 (UTC) Author:Joe Buntick
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Semi-protected edit request on 21 December 2015
In Religion section it states "Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI visited Cuba in 1998 and 2011, respectively, and Pope Francis will visit Cuba in September 2015.[234]". As this has now happened it should be updated to reflect that. Perhaps; "Pope John Paul II, Pope Benedict XVI, and Pope Francis visited Cuba in 1998, 2011, and 2015 respectively.[234]"

Possible source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/20/world/pope-cuba-conflicts/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.62.29.131 (talk) 05:52, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

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On 16 February 2016, the Obama administration approved the first U.S. factory in Cuba in more than half a century, allowing a two-man company from Alabama to build a plant assembling as many as 1,000 small tractors a year for sale to private farmers in Cuba.

Picomtn (talk) 17:22, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Dear . I am rejecting this edit because it is not paraphrased (said in your own words). Albeit very germane to the article it is a verbatim copy of the first line of the article. Here is an essay on close paraphrasing; it is an essay, not a policy or even a guideline. As an aside, I would recommend that when possible that citations are fully dressed including author, accessdate, etc. Filling out as many parameters as possible is helpful to prevent WP:link rot. Cheers!  20:27, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Is this better? But I don't know how to exactly to the reference link.Picomtn (talk) 11:08, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2016
In the government portion of the page, it lists the President, Vice President, and President of the National Assembly very incorrectly. It lists them, with obvious bias, as "Dictator", "First Vice Dictator", and "Dictator of the National Assembly", respectively. These should be fixed to show the proper terms of "President", "Vice President", and "President of the National Assembly". Alongside the changes to the text, both the President and Vice President labels should link to their respective pages, which already exist.

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Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2016
Apanda2332 (talk) 19:00, 22 May 2016 (UTC) I just wanted to add that the fist cruise ship from america went there in 2016.
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Semi-protected edit request on 18 August 2016
Black population in Cuba is up to 60%, your numbers are very off when it comes to the census. Actually, most stats from Cuba are heavily tampered with or aren't real.

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On Portugal's Cuba...
The "Portuguese Columbus" hypothesis, according to which Cuba would have been named after Alentejo's Cuba, has been thoroughly debunked and doesn't deserved to be mentioned in the main article. Too often Wikipedia puts fantasy theories on an equal footing with consensual History, making them sound more relevant than they actually are.

Thucydidian (talk) 12:30, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

People's Supreme Court of Cuba
Is the court controlled by the party? Yes, according to the ideology, but maybe someone knows facts?Xx236 (talk) 07:58, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

In July 2010... there were 167 political prisoners
Recent data are needed.Xx236 (talk) 08:02, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

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Home Ownership (Economy)
There is virtually no homelessness in Cuba, and 85% of Cubans own their own homes and pay no property taxes or interest on their mortgages. Cuba has zero percent malnutrition as well.

Under a Communist regime, no one "Owns" any property. The government owns and controls all property, which can be confiscated at will. My guess is that 85% of Cubans live in government provided housing, and 15% live in semi-private housing that they pay for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:281:C002:56E0:692C:5989:2EE:C6CC (talk) 17:14, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Demographics
The demographics are completely inaccurate. The real demographics are mulatto=(51%) whites=(35%) black=(11%) and Chinese=(1%) Kxngston.1 (talk) 10:05, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Catalan people emigrated to Cuba????? Almost no Catalan emigration to Cuba. In general, Catalan emigration to Latin America is almost non-existent. Cuba is known for have received a large emigration from Galicia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.8.5.209 (talk) 22:46, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 14 December 2016
{{subst:trim| 5Kelley (talk) 22:58, 14 December 2016 (UTC) If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ". Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 09:10, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
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Request for comment
This article is more likely to be written in American English than British due to the country's history as a possession of the the United States. It, along with other Central American countries, such as the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, and Panama were under American hegemony most of the 20th century. Panama and the Dominican Republic were even briefly occupied. A request to include the template American English be included in the talk pages of the articles. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 08:37, 31 December 2016 (UTC) "See also List of U.S. colonial possessions"


 * This is not the purpose of the language templates. They document if there is a dispute, which version the article is written in by the editors writing the article. Sprinkling templates on talkpages for articles you don't edit is not constructive. CMD (talk) 09:26, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * This article already uses American English, the template is merely a formality. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 09:32, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * That is unrelated to your initial argument, edit summary, and the paragraph you wrote above. Additionally, you have in the past added engvar templates to articles in opposition of the engvar the article is written in. That is not a formality, that is disruptive. Since this article is in American English and the RfC is therefore not about changing the content of this article, I am removing this RfC. Please ask questions about our MOS on the talkpages of that MOS. CMD (talk) 09:55, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2017
Suggest removing the following from Prehistory: "The name "Cuba" comes from the native Taíno language. It is derived from either coabana meaning "great place," or from cubao meaning "where fertile land is abundant". "

Because this merely repeats information already given just above in the "Etymology" section. 188.29.198.25 (talk) 16:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sir Joseph (talk) 16:52, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Slavery abolished in 1875?
We currently have the statement "Slavery in Cuba was abolished in 1875 but the process was completed only in 1886". The latter date is supported by the two references that follow, but both suggest that the abolition occurred in the 1880s with no mention of an event in 1875. What exactly did happen in 1875? If no one can provide an answer and reference it would be better to remove the 1875 date here.Jmchutchinson (talk) 09:33, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Fidel Castro
As of yet it seems that the death of Fidel Castro has yet to be included in this article. It seems to be a glaring exclusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.126.25.234 (talk) 01:52, 15 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I agree with this. A section should be added about Fidel Casto. If a section is not added, information about his death could fit under "Revolution and Communist party rule (1959–present)" as it is an important event in the history of the Cuban Revolution. Adding a sentence or two about the reactions to his death within Cuba/abroad and the nine days of state sanctioned mourning could be informational to those who are looking for a quick summery of the history of Cuba from (1959-present). Make2018 (talk) 19:20, 2 February 2017 (UTC)make2018

Cuba is not "white", "black", or "mulatto"
Stop using these stupid outdated terms to describe ethnicity. Most Cubans have West African and Spanish ancestry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.22.214.162 (talk) 20:11, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2017
remove heritage foundation report, include natl debt statistics from elsewhere, heritage foundation is intensely ideologically opposed to cuba and is equivalent to citing the victims of communism memorial foundation. 192.154.63.69 (talk) 03:31, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Power~enwiki (talk) 05:00, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

GAESA
I'm reading the latest news about Trump and Cuba, and the articles made references to GAESA. Why can't I find anything on Wikipedia about it? The only thing I could find was some archived discussion of whether it was appropriate to include it.

76.254.29.125 (talk) 05:55, 17 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Hum, I had never heard of it before. The stories I found talking about it seem to be sufficient for inclusion in this article, or maybe even have an article of its own. I searched the archives and only found tangential mentions to it, I don't think there's any opposition to the inclusion. Feel free to include it if you want. Saturnalia0 (talk) 20:14, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Castro's dictatorship
diff. As requested, I'm bringing the discussion here. I believe that, besides being obvious, the phrase that was removed is supported by independent reliable sources and meets due weight criteria for inclusion. The reverter argues that the statement is disputed. I am not aware of who disputes this, could elaborate? I added a quote for the Britannica ref, I don't see how it disputes the statement. Could you show us how so? If there is disagreement, then the recommendation is, I believe, to introduce the dispute preferably with secondary sources who discuss the matter in a neutral way, and then mention what both sides have to say - in this case, if Castro's government was or was not a dictatorship. I would like to point out that things like "this is blatant POV-pushing" (from the edit summary) do not contribute to the debate, I may as well accuse others of attempting to rewrite history by white washing away reliable sources identifying a murderous dictator for what he is. Saturnalia0 (talk) 03:15, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2017
168.184.14.99 (talk) 14:05, 9 October 2017 (UTC) Cuba is located in the carriben
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: This is already stated and implied. –72 (talk) 15:21, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Dating format
I think the dating format for this page should be changed from Month Day Year (MDY), to Day Month Year (DMY). Cuba uses the DMY dating system (please see - date format by country). Usually dating systems are changed inline with whatever national tie that page has to any specific country, in this case the article is specifically about only one country, so I don't think you can get much more of a national tie than that. I realise this is a lot of dates to change, being the article contains many of them, but I am willing to change them all myself. I just want to make sure others are alright with this first and that a clear reason is given why the dates have been changed. If anyone else would like to do this or if anyone knows any tools that could help make this faster and / or easier please let everyone know here on the talk page. Helper201 (talk) 08:56, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You're right, Cuba does use DMY and MOS:DATETIES states that it should therefore be used here. I took the liberty of since there doesn't appear to have been any objections.  Wasechun tashunka HOWLTRACK 20:41, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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Totalitarian government
Isn't Cuba totalitarian? (24.205.83.199 (talk) 05:37, 8 December 2017 (UTC))

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The Economy Chart doesn't show Tourism
Cuba has a tourism industry which has been popular and expanded. It is mentioned in the economy section but does not even show in the uniq sector chart, making me beleive while the sector chart appears meticulous: is it somewhat sloppy in the making.

I'm not sure it is sloppy; more like outdated :) Cschwinn (talk) 22:04, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Transportation Group
Throughout my searches in Wikipedia, I find that for each country, there is generally a section for Transportation. However, the Cuba page does not have one listed, even though there is a page for that. I would like to add at least a link to the transport page from the Cuba page, but it is locked from editing. How would I add such a thing? Cschwinn (talk) 22:08, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Normally with an edit request. This page is only semi-protected though, so you can come back once your account is autoconfirmed, if you prefer. Uglemat (talk) 23:06, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Edit request
The last line in the intro reads:

It also ranks highly in some metrics of national performance, including health care and education, and is the only country in the world to receive WWF's definition of sustainable development.

However, the source listed is the 2006 report. The latest report which also includes information on countries meeting WWF's definition of sustainable development is 2012, and in that edition, no countries meet the definition.

Please remove this clause from the sentence. Thank you! 2601:240:CC08:7780:507B:F3FC:499B:D625 (talk) 07:47, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done, thank you. Gulumeemee (talk) 09:33, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2018
Change President from Raul Castro to Miguel Díaz-Canel BobFuxer (talk) 03:17, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DRAGON BOOSTER   ★  06:53, 19 April 2018 (UTC)