Talk:Cuban Revolution/Archive 1

Maveric149 added the following sentence to this article:
"The United States then placed an embargo on Cuba and Castro responded by nationalizing American and foreign-owned property in the nation on August 6, 1960."

This is not accurate: the Castro government began the nationalizations/confiscations/expropriations in March 1959 and the U.S. government imposed its first economic embargo on Cuba on October 19, 1960, primarily as a response to the nationalizations. Then, on October 24, 1960 Cuba nationalized all remaining properties owned by U.S. interests as its response to the imposition of the U.S. embargo ...

Hello - I've been rearching the Cuban revolution at the US National Archives and have uploaded several hundred pages at http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/gringosintherevolution/gringosintherevolution.htm Any comments or insights welcome at paulwolf@icdc.com

- Paul
 * OK paul 404 error on that link
 * --Gotten 21:56, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Corrected Paul Wolf's URL above --Rolando 04:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

and the other thing: i want to make major changes in the first paragraphs of "triumph of the revolution, it is bad written, first there were FOUR "fronts" which were static and their locations were in the "oriente" province, now santiago, granma, guantamo, and other provinces of the eastern Cuba, the "columns" were two, one leaded by "Che" and the other by "camilo cienfuegos" they were the ones who entered havana first one taking "Columbia" and the other taking "El morro Cabaña", in january 8 Fidel entered havana.. although there are roumours that he was in havan before that, but almost every major historic source confirm that he really entered january 8, i am going to make the changes soon(today or tomorrow morning, i am writing the section from scratch), plase if someone has opinion on this please post it. --Gotten 21:56, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Urban Resistance
There is no mention in this article about the Urban Underground, which was responsible for a good deal of the successes of the revolution. Some maintain that it is the urban resistance that was the main catylyst for the triumph of the revolution, but that their involvement has been downplayed in the years since the revolution in an effort to associate the struggle with the romantic image of the guerilla becoming one with 'the people." At any rate, any serious attempt to inform readers about the cuban revolutionary war needs to include this often overlooked front of the war. In time, should nobody else do so, I will attempt to write a section about this, but my knowledge of this is lacking at present and I would prefer to brush up a bit. Should anybody who is better equipped desire to do this, it would make an excellent addition to this article.

Since nobody has changed the article around to reflect the role of the urban wing of the revolutionary movement, I have decided I will take this task upon myself. My concern is that giving it its own section will draw away from a smooth article, as it did work concurrently with the rebels in the Sierra Maestra. I think it might be best to wait to merge the sections on the Sierra & the Revolutionary War with that of the Urban Front. . . at least until there is enough information on the latter to make it work. takethemud 20:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)takethemud


 * Article has been fixed up perhaps now it better reflects objective reality El Jigüe 12-07-05


 * As I understand it the revolution was fought primaraly in the cities by the Cuban middle-class, mostly as a pro-democratic rebbelion. There wasn't a single farmer or worker in the first cabinate.  It's also note worthy that attempts by the Communists to organize general strikes were a failure.  --BrettKnoss (talk) 14:53, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Brett, any user is welcome to improve the article while relying on WP:verifiable and Wp:reliable sources. Edits are supposed to represent the "understandings" of scholars and published researchers, not our own. Find a source for your hypothesis, and by all means propose it for inclusion or include it yourself. Thanks.   Red thoreau  (talk) RT 15:21, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Frank País
The article on Frank País seems to have quite a bit of general history on the Cuban Revolution. I'm not sure if it belongs there, but it does seem relevant here. --Rolando 04:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Added resource
Added the book "Inside the Cuban Revolution: Fidel Castro and the Urban Underground" to the "References" section. --Ersatzbot 14:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Needs mention of elections
This article seems to have no mention of the elections that had taken place shortly before the barbudos marched into Havana. This is a rather critical omission since the revolutionaries had issued threats that anyone going to the polls would be "machine-gunned down" - something like that, I can't remember the exact wording - going to have to look up some of the old news coverage from back then. Someone should really get on this! I shall see what I can dig up and find sources for. Cheers. Goatboy95 15:08, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Additions
The below addition to the opening paragraph is getting way off topic and perhaps is barely relevant to the nether reaches of the article. Plus the opinion that the Revolution had Stalinist principles is just that, an opinion, and not one I or most people who write about the subject would agree with.--Zleitzen 00:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC) "Batista government, including the implementation of Marxist and Stalinist principles. As such, there were several attempts to use it as a model for other countries to follow, mainly through communist conspiracy and subversion tactics, which historically gave rise to guerrilla warfare movements in nine (9) Latin American countries during the 1960s, all of which failed."

Referencing
I tagged that new section as unreferenced, but it now strikes me that the whole article is terribly short on referencing. -- Beardo 16:45, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

This article is missing lots of stuff that is in the Castro page
transfer stuff and delete it from the Castro page that is too long Tree Hugger 05:53, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

NPOV
I find this to be violting NPOV since it's a biased line expressing the position of the writer:

"In addition to the physical attacks endured by Batista, further insult came from a pirate radio station called Rebel Radio (Radio Rebelde)"

I think this should be changed. 189.141.53.143 05:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC) ZealotKommunizma


 * You can make changes, or suggest something here. -- Beardo 07:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Another obviously biased sentence (the article reeks of this stuff) "Land reform efforts did not raise living standards because instead of subdividing larger holdings into small private farms, cooperatives were formed."

This is about tag cleanup. As all of the tags are more than a year old, there is no current discussion relating to them, and there is a great deal of editing done since the tags were placed, or in some cases it's clear there is a consensus, they will be removed. This is not a judgement of content. If there is cause to re-tag, then that of course may be done, with the necessary posting of a discussion as to why, and what improvements could be made. Better yet, edit the article yourself with the improvements in place. This is only an effort to clean out old tags, and permit them to be updated with current issues if warranted.Jjdon (talk) 22:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

The entire article seems to be an attempt to immortalize the rebels. All subjects relating to the rebels or the revolution is written in a positive light and paints them as heroes. All subjects relating to Batista are written in a negative light. In reality, neither side should be depicted as angels. --160.133.1.228 (talk) 14:33, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Map is wrong
The map confuses sugar mills Palma Soriano and Estrada Palma. Am I the only one who noticed El Jigue 208.65.188.149 20:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I've changed the map EJ.-- Z leitzen (talk)  20:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Citations needed in December 1956 to Mid-1958?
There apparently were origionally citations, but they no longer functioned, so I removed them and replaced with Fact tags. (RookZERO 01:02, 25 May 2007 (UTC))

Need of details of other resistance groups
This section seems to exclude mention of other resistance groups, and under emphasizes the importance of Frank Pais's urban guerrillas, revolts in the Navy etc,,,El Jigue208.65.188.149 15:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup needed in December 1956 to Mid-1958
"The RD's leader, student Jose Antonio Echeverria, died in a shootout with Batista's forces at the Havana radio station he had seized to spread news of Jose Antonio Echeverria's death"

He seized the radio station to report his own death?Djstrangeways (talk) 14:42, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

proxy ruler ?!?
Batista was elected (legitimately elected, more legitimately than Bush or Clinton or Obama) several times. Cuba was an independent nation. Perhaps, that first sentence should be rephrased.
 * 1) The revolution was NOT a Castro revolution;  there were many other players;  the Castro-forces have NOT won even one major victory.
 * 2) Without the help of the U.S. State Department, and U.S. press, Castro would never have amounted to anything, communists would not have taken over Cuba

Question: How many political opponents of Batista were executed during Bastista's premiership ? How many ....... executed during Castro's premiership ? How many people left Cuba during Batista's premiership in inner tubes, braving shark-infested waters just to get away ... ? --nt351 December 18, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nt351 (talk • contribs) 22:46, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Revolutionary "justice"
What kind of POV are we trying to push here when we call the murder of 70 captured soldiers "justice"? It might be too much the other way to call it what it was: a war crime.Die4Dixie (talk) 23:15, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

"U.S.-backed Cuban Dictator" (Batista)
User: Luis Napoles has attempted to remove the above information recently claiming: ""Not in the journalist source and even if it was it would be far too controversial per WP:LEAD. Cuba was under embargo, ambassor was withdrawal, and there was a covert mission to replace him"."

Now leaving aside the fact that the NPR audio report I utilized the given link ---> (click on the first "Listen Now") states in the first 13 seconds (00:9-00:13) this EXACT verbatim phrase ... in anticipation of a likely deletion forthcoming again, per - WP:VERIFY - I figured I would utilize this talk page to list "several" sources which corroborate the phrase "U.S.-backed Dictator" in reference to Fulgencio Batista.

The following below are all book titles (accessible by Google books) followed by the page number and verbatim phrase contained within the source:

Cuba: idea of a nation displaced - page 77 .... "US -backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

Born in blood and fire: a concise history of Latin America‎ - Page 262 .... "US -backed military dictatorship"

The Columbia history of Latinos in the United States since 1960‎ - Page 149 .... "US -backed dictator, Fulgencio Batista"

Breaking the real axis of evil: how to oust the world's last dictators by 2025‎ - Page 231 .... "overthrow of the US -backed dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista"

America's other war: terrorizing Colombia‎ - Page 27 .... "overthrowing the US-backed dictator, Fulgencio Batista"

The Puerto Rican movement: voices from the diaspora‎ - Page 39 .... "the fall of US -backed Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista"

Rockets and Missiles: The Life Story of a Technology‎ - Page 74 .... "overthrown US -backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

Colonialism: an international, social, cultural, and political encyclopedia‎ - Page 157 .... "against US-backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

Encyclopedia of Latino popular culture‎ - Page 75.... "overthrow of US -backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

The Greenwood Dictionary of World History‎ - Page 41 .... "overthrow of US -backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

Che Guevara: In Search of Revolution‎ - Page 46 .... "US -backed Cuban government led by Fulgencio Batista"

Perils of Empire: The Roman Republic and the American Republic‎ - Page 127 .... "the US-backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

The Cold War, 1945-1991: Leaders and other important figures in the Soviet Union - Page 134 .... "Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista … against the US-backed Batista regime"

Facts about the 20th century‎ - Page 285 .... "overthrew US-backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

Latino/a Thought: Culture, Politics, and Society‎ - Page 542 .... "oust the US -backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

Cuba and the coming American Revolution‎ - Page 65 .... "US-backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

Whiteout: The CIA, Drugs, and the Press‎ - Page 122 .... "with Fulgencio Batista, the US-backed dictator"

Children of Cain: violence and the violent in Latin America‎ - Page 111 .... "US -backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

The Iraq war: causes and consequences‎ - Page 36 .... "US-backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

Robert F. Kennedy and the death of American idealism‎ - Page 54 .... "The US -backed dictator, General Fulgencio Batista"

Changing the history of Africa: Angola and Namibia‎ - Page 105 .... "US-backed dictator, Fulgencio Batista"

Endless enemies: the making of an unfriendly world‎ - Page 256 .... "Fulgencio Batista, the US -backed dictator"

If you don't prefer books, a quick web search also lists these web articles from the

Telegraph ... "US-backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

Reuters ... "overthrow U.S.-backed dictator"

Washington Post ... "U.S.-backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

Capitalism Magazine = (now there's a bastion of Communism) ... "U.S.-backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

Boston Globe ... "US-backed Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista"

CNN ... "toppled a longstanding U.S.-backed dictator."

Irish Times ... "US-backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

BBC ... "US-backed dictator Fulgencio Batista"

National Post ... "U.S.-backed dictator"

Miami Herald ... "U.S.-backed Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista"

Now Luis Napoles, I trust that you would agree that listing all of the above ref's in the lead might "be a bit much", thus if you can not provide any evidence to dispute this well known and accepted historical fact (which I document above) per Wp:Undue, WP:Verify, Wp:Reliable - and if there is not editor Wp:Consensus to dispute the above material or its inclusion - then please refrain from removing this important historical detail from the article going forward. Thanks   Red thoreau  (talk)RT 15:39, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, according to p5 of this article from the U.S. Army War College and p178 of this book. Babakathy (talk) 15:27, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * None has denied that the US viewed him with diplomatic approval until the mid-1950s. But when the regime collapsed on January 1, 1959, it was under embargo, diplomatic cutoff, and there was a covert mission to replace him, which greatly contributed to the collapse. Saying simply "US-backed" misleads readers without reference to how the relationship evolved from the mid-1950s. The article should substantiate what is meant by "backed" and how "backed" he was after 1958 elections.Luis Napoles (talk) 16:07, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Luis, [1] Batista was in power in Cuba for 18 years (33-44, 52-59). He was indisputably backed by the U.S. for 17-17.5 years of that time, thus we use "U.S.-backed", as do the majority of sources. [2] All of the refs I provide above are speaking of Batista ON JAN 1 1959, not in the mid 1950's. Per WP:Verify and Wp:Undue that is thus the description we would go with. [3] Batista received military aid from the U.S. for the first 2 years of the Guerrilla conflict against J26M (1956-58). The U.S. ambassador was only "pulled" when it became obvious that Batista was about to be toppled, at the very end of the conflict. [4] Sure, you can find a few minor sympathetic or partisan sources which paint Batista in a positive light (not as a dictator accused of killing 20,000 Cubans) or as someone 'betrayed' by the U.S. who wanted him to be overthrown for Fidel Castro (a view common among some of the CIA in late 1958, but not the U.S. State Dept or Govt), but the majority of Wp:Reliable sources do not provide all of the "stipulations" and caveats that you are wishing to include. This is a "summary" of the situation, and the fact that Batista was (and was viewed) as being backed by the U.S. (i.e. a puppet, lackey etc) by the Cuban people, was a key "selling point" for those rebelling against his rule during the Cuban revolution. In my view, you are not attempting to WP:SUBSTANTIATE, rather you are trying to "revise" or "muddy" the historical record, to conform to your ideological view (Wp:pov) and anti-Castro sentiments (Wp:bias) (which are on full display with nearly every edit you make).   Red thoreau  (talk)RT 17:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Redthoreau, the United States gave some aid (in the scale of a few men) and you should certainly add it to the article. But so it did to the Soviet Union in the World War II, in a massively larger scale. Please stay in the subject and explain your deletions. Stop deleting citations to the relationship during the revolution and how it contributed to the revolution.Luis Napoles (talk) 17:27, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Luis, your edit to the lead, doesn't even make grammatical sense. It is not only poorly constructed, but per Wp:Undue shouldn’t even be in the lead, but down in the body of the article (if at all). However, I will await further views of other editors, rather than becoming entangled in a 3RR edit war on the matter.    Red thoreau  (talk)RT 17:38, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

1956 missing!
What happened to 1956? Or was it never there? As of late Sept 2009, we have followed the revolutionaries into training in exile in 1955. The very next paragraph has a ship we've never heard of landing them in Cuba in Dec 1956. Can someone fill this gap? Ian Page (talk) 02:40, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Che Guevara quote appears incomplete, under subheading "Mid-1958 to January 1959"
I don't have access to the book which is cited to see whether the quote is rendered exactly as in the book, but I noticed that "crum hem" doesn't make sense. On Googling the rest of the quote, I found this version: "The enemy soldier in the Cuban example which at present concerns us, is the junior partner of the dictator; he is the man who gets the last crumb left by a long line of profiteers that begins in Wall Street and ends with him. He is disposed to defend his privileges, but he is disposed to defend them only to the degree that they are important to him. His salary and his pension are worth some suffering and some dangers, but they are never worth his life. If the price of maintaining them will cost it, he is better off giving them up; that is to say, withdrawing from the face of the guerrilla danger." I have italicised the words and word portions that do not appear on the Wikipedia page. However, I found that at http://el-che.com/revolution.html and can see no citations there. The Wikipedia page citation is to the book, so if this is an accurate copy of an error in the book, and alternative robust source for this quote should be found. Marynz (talk) 21:49, 21 May 2011 (UTC)Marynz 22 May 2011 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marynz (talk • contribs) 21:44, 21 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Fixed. It was a typo.  Red thoreau  -- (talk) 00:33, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

introduction: description of government
The introduction is misleading: the 26 July movement and allied revolutionary organisations which came to power with Fidel Castro at their head in 1959 was not entirely communist in outlook, a few highly influential members like Raul Castro and Che Guevara were communist. Their influnce became predominant over the next few years and only in April 1961 was the revolution declare "Socialist". This can be read later in the article however it is important that the introduction reflect this reality of change over time as the alternative implication undermines the independence of the process of that revolution from eastern bloc ambitions etc. It also sets the scene for the later purges of officials and 'enemies' of the revolution. In short it should read "and was replaced by a revolutionary government headed by Castro which was later to reform itself as a cuban communist party". references for this can be found in A.M Dopico "3:10 to Yuma" in A Ross and K Ross (eds.) Anti-Americanism. New York University Press (2004) amongst others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.23.67.225 (talk) 10:45, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Head of government
(4/11/12) The introduction says the revolutionary government was headed by Castro, but in the Mid-1958_to_January_1959 it says that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Urrutia_Lle%C3%B3 was president. I feel like this should be elaborated. Was he just some sort of puppet or figure head or did Castro hold an office even more powerful? Redx47 (talk) 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redx47 (talk • contribs) 13:40, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * There's no contradiction. In most nations, the head of state can be a president, king, dictator, etc. The person who decides executive actions is the prime minister. Go check.PeterWD (talk) 17:01, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Why so short?
Does anyone else feel that the article would be better if it were longer? Entire volumes and series have been written about the subject. --Lacarids (talk) 00:47, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah! This article really should be longer, it's one of the most important events in the 20th century, it really deserves a bigger article. Charles Essie (talk) 20:05, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Suggest some additions, then. It isn't much use to just say "make it longer". – Michaelmas1957 (talk) 11:18, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps a backround section, more details on the advance of the M-26-7, the political opposition to Batista, public opinion in Cuba, the unrest leading up to the revolution, the protests and strikes, the attempted counter-revolutions, Castro's consolidation of power, the causes of the revolution, the international reactions to the revolution, the role of foreign powers, the legacy of the revolution, the impact on Cuban society, the impact on the cold war, the resonance it had in other countries, the fear it provoked in other countries, and the revolution in popular culture. Charles Essie (talk) 21:23, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Good suggestions. I'll look into expanding it later (although a bit of help would be welcome, it'll be a big job). – Michaelmas1957 (talk) 14:08, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
 * There, I've added a section on the causes of the Revolution, describing Batista's coup and the reasons his regime led to popular discontent. More work can be done, of course – this is just the first stage. – Michaelmas1957 (talk) 16:01, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Just added a section on the foreign repercussions of the revolution. Again, more still to be done, but I don't think the article is as incomplete as it used to be. – Michaelmas1957 (talk) 13:52, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

The racial aspect
I think the fact that the majority of the Cubans that fled Cuba after the revolution were white should be mentioned. This also caused the black population in Cuba to be increased.B-Machine (talk) 16:50, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Directorio Revolucionario Estudantil
I'm not sure if Rolando Cubela should be listed in the infobox (probably yes). But as a leader of the Directorio Revolucionario Estudantil, he should not be given the M-26 flag icon. Podiaebba (talk) 01:00, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Comparison of Forces?
"The United States supplied Batista with planes, ships, tanks, and the latest technology, such as napalm, which he used against the insurgency." --Arima (talk) 04:43, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Number of victims of the Cuban Revolution
What is the number of victims of the Cuban Revolution? I know there are 2 million Cubans living abroad, but I have no idea how many people were killed by the revolutionaries.--41.145.147.21 (talk) 22:44, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Why Is Che Guevara Listed As KIA?
I know it's a small thing but it's really weird to me to see Che Guevara being marked in the infobox with the cross icon that traditionally means 'killed in action' since he died in 1967 in Bolivia fighting in a completely different revolution. I can understand that from today's perspective we might feel that his death was somehow part of the same movement but that leads to a misstatement of facts. He survived the revolution, served in Castro's government with distinction for some years then under his own steam left to continue the fight elsewhere. Call me a stickler but when you have a notable life in your own right after the war in question you probably shouldn't be shown as dying in the war. 109.153.3.240 (talk) 21:21, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Guerrilla warfare section: Kennedy quote
What is the purpose of the long 1963 JFK quote at the beginning of this section? As it stands it makes neither chronological nor logical sense. At the very least there should be some explanation of its purpose. If it were up to me I'd simply delete it since it has no obvious bearing on the falling out between the US and Cuba during the mid-1950s. Vaughan Pratt (talk) 03:07, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

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Women and the revolution
As of April 26th, 2017 there is now a section on women's roles during the revolution, but it needs to be expanded. The lack of information on women in the revolution in this article creates bias that is not true to wikipedia standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Codehex (talk • contribs) 22:23, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Orphaned Sentence In Intro?
There seems to be an orphaned sentence in the intro:

Castro’s organized attack set up on the eastern end of Santiago de Cuba against the military barracks ended in despair and failure due to government.

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Cuba's date of independence from Spain
In the article's first section, "Background and causes", the first sentence states that Cuba gained its independence from Spain in 1902. If I'm not mistaken, Cuba gained its "independence" from Spain in 1898 with the Treaty of Paris. The island then became a protectorate of the United States until 1902, when it declared itself a self-governing republic. I'm going to edit the first sentence to reflect this reading of history, for now. If anyone would like to make the argument against this edit, I'll change it back, or we could amend it in a different way. CarlsonC (talk) 00:55, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * You are right on the money. Cuba was indeed officially free of Spain via the Treaty of Paris in 1898.TH1980 (talk) 02:14, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

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Supported by Soviet Union?
There is no source given for the revolutionaries being supported by the Soviet Union and nowhere else in the article is this support mentioned or elaborated on. In my own research I've been unable to find any evidence of this support, should this be erased?
 * Yes, it should. Castro and his rebels had no relations at all with the Soviets prior to Castro's meeting with Mikoyan over a year after they assumed power. The USSR did not support guerrillas in Latin America, due to the doctrine of peaceful coexistence, which promoted non-intervention in the US sphere of influence. Neither had they any obvious interest of doing so: the 26th of July movement was not Marxist, did not advocate relations with the USSR, the USSR had no interest in Cuba and did not expect to find an ally in it, and even the Cuban communists did not support the revolution until 1958. The establishment of relations with the USSR and subsequent Soviet did not occur before US sanctions were imposed after the land reform, which forced Cuba to seek for new allies, and convinced the USSR that the island could become an important ally due to its proximity to the US. Outright aid did not start before the Bay of Pigs Invasion. I have removed this alleged Soviet support earlier as well, but somebody has added it once again with no source (no reliable source for this can ever be found either, because it simply did not happen). --Te og kaker (talk) 16:46, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

"security bridge" error in 2nd history paragraph
In the second paragraph of the history section the following sentence:

"Batista developed a rather weak security bridge as an attempt to silence political opponents."

seems unclear or erroneous. I can find no information about what a security bridge is, in the context of silencing political opponents. I suggest that this sentence is removed, or amended to more clearly describe Batistas' efforts to suppress political opposition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.70.82.203 (talk) 22:19, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Money Change-Over
The change of the money in the banking system after the revolution changed around 1958. Employees were asked to stay after the bank closed for the day in which the bank accounts distributed the deposits on hand so when the bank opened up the following business day everyone had about the same amount of new money deposited in their bank account. Many who believed that they had much wealth stored in the old currency in their bank accounts learned when the bank opened up with the new account balances that the wealth that they believed they owned was no longer. The top government officials enriched themselves during this process.

Sign your posts on talk pages: Anonymous  Cite your sources:  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.138.243.249 (talk) 05:09, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Infobox misinformation
The infobox consistently displays information not present in the article. Info in the article is cited and supports that the July 26th Movement received support from the United States and the United States did not support the Cuban government at the time of the revolution. Whenever the infobox is edited to reflect this it is soon edited back. I would understand if cited evidence is given to justify the reverting edits but this is never the case. Is there anything to do to prevent this? Mangokeylime (talk) 17:11, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Removed content
The "In popular culture" section previously said "The 2010 video game Call of Duty: Black Ops features a level set in Havana in 1961, in which players must attempt to assassinate Castro. The level was condemned by the Cuban government. " I've removed this because there is no obvious relation between that level and the Cuban Revolution itself, only Castro's presidency and the Cold War in general. Feel free to reinstate the content if a closer link is found to the Revolution. Glades12 (talk) 13:49, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Errors in editing
Hello Wikipedians! I keep seeing the various errors while editing this page. These edits are either made when adding content or by editors removing sourced content without explanation. Some common mistakes I see...


 * References to Cuban history after 1959 as part of the "Cuban Revolution". So far all sourced info states the revolution was a period between 1953 to 1959. (For example a picture of Che and Fidel in 1962 was this article's sidebar image for a long time, this had to be removed).
 * Removal of sourced info detailing United States involvement in supporting rebel activities, usually without explanation as to why they're removed.
 * Adding unsourced claims that the Cuban Revolution was part of the Cold War. So far no info in this article is sourced and states that this revolution was a part of the greater Cold War power struggles.

I hope editors can remember to add info using credible sources and not add un-sourced content that simply works off of a popular conception of the history of this revolution. If you do have new information pertaining or maybe even in contrary to something in the article please add it (as long as it is properly sourced). I only complain because I see a lot of these problematic edits defying sources, if you have sourced info to add, go ahead!

I hope I was able to put my complaints concisely. Any thoughts on what I have said? I would love to know.Mangokeylime (talk) 23:04, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

who is Reynol Garcia?
I can't find anything through a google search. He seems to have some sort of flag next to his name, and there's a town in Cuba named after him. Is that a Chinese flag? If so, shouldn't that be mentioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.204.33.171 (talk) 14:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

1958 Cuban general election
I added 1958 Cuban general election. ovA_165443 (talk) 15:05, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Causes of Revolution should be added
As of Nov. 25, 2009 there is no mention of the causes of the revolution which would help understand why it happened in the first place. The work by Sam Dolgoff provides causes and misconceptions of the revolution including first hand eyewitness reports of Castro's push for a totalitarian takeover of Cuba.

http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/anarchist_Archives/bright/dolgoff/cubanrevolution/toc.html

mgmendoz


 * Thank you, I'll try to fix it when I get time. Thanks again! ovA_165443 (talk) 14:39, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment
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