Talk:Culture of Lebanon/Archive 1

hospitality
No mention of lebanese culture should go without a piece on the brilliant hospitality of the people Rm uk 03:40, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Women's rights
"Although in practice gender-based discrimination still occurs, women legally enjoy full rights to work, vote, travel, and run for public office."

Formal right is different from enforced right. And the status of women differs from one community to another. Muslim woman can be divorced easily and inherit half the man share. Even in the christian community, a married woman can be legally forbidden to work by her husband (rare but legal). Woman cannot transmit nationality. A man can have his wife on his passport (and this creates a de facto travel restriction) but the opposite is not possible. --equitor 14:47, 12 May 2005 (UTC)


 * good points you raise there! hehe happily position of women in lebanon far better than in other parts of middle east Rm uk 03:40, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Use of Arabic Language
The statement "many Maronites still speak French at home" is not sourced. Not only is the statement implying that a notable minority speaks French as a first language, which is disputed, but it also implies that there was a time in the past when French dominated.

There is a lot of attention paid to the issue of non-Arab identity without any sources or substantiation. From my own experience I do not see evidence of substantial groups of Lebanese, including Christians, with the exception of the Armenian minority, using any language other than Arabic as their native tongue. There are indeed groups that claim not to be Arabs but this hardly serves to define a cultural reality but a political one. Indeed, some of Lebanon's most prominent artists are Christian and they use Arabic predominantly. Anecdotally, I would add that in my own experience, French and/or English are rarely spoken as a first language by the Lebanese, and when they are its by people who have lived for significant periods of time outside Lebanon. --User:Emirbachir


 * ---Emirbachir has a point, not a complete and fully correct point, but one none the less. Some Lebanese (a minority though) use French as their primary language at home and with their friends. But those people are not necessarily Maronites, some aren't even Christian. I think the idea of having a major French influence should be included in the article but the wording portrays the wrong image. We also can't forget that Lebanon has a history that does not limit its culture to the Arabic culture only, but to many others starting from the ancient cultures up to modern ones. It is important to point out that a difference does exist between Lebanon and the surrounding Arab countries. So i feel that this section needs more attention and carefulness. A rewrite is a must! --User:LebaneseHoo 16:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Shi'a scholars
As a Shi'a Iranian I'm in Lebanese shi'a sholars' debt. Thus I add a new par and add something about Islamic knowledge which has produced by scholars of Jabal Amel. --Sa.vakilian 17:13, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Dear Shi'a Iranian, are you Lebanese? The paragraph that you have added may be slightly off-topic, as well as news to me, a Lebanese who is not "in shi'a scholars' debt". I wouldn't write this information in the "Knowledge" section of a "Culture of Lebanon" page because this is not where the knowledge starts or ends, in fact it is simply under the wrong name.

Quality of this article?
My comments:

- Incomplete: what about the travellor/business sense qualities that are typical characteristics? What about hospitality, tolreance and warmth with foreigners? These are always in the first lines of any paragraph I have read that describes Lebanese culture, and should be here as well.

- The section "Knowledge": I was looking for a reference to the high education that is typical of young Lebanese due to the very competitive education sector in Lebanon. However I find in this section information about Shi'a documents that ended up used in Iran. Please rename this section, or move this information somewhere else, and mention high level education as the typical characteristic that it is.

- Mistake: the president should be "catholic"??? Correction please ;)

Kay —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kaysay (talk • contribs) 09:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC).

"Arabicness"
I don't think that "arabicness" is a word. There's 44 Google results with it..-DMCer 13:02, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There's no such thing as a Lebanese language.
I have a problem with the following :

"While Arabic is the official language along with French, the spoken language in public is a Lebanese language that is mixed and influenced by the various cultures and peoples that occupied Lebanon. It has Aramaic roots most similar to Phoenician language and Arabs say it is very soft and elegant ahd has become famous in the Middle East with the influence of Lebanese arts and celebrities."

The only official language of the country is Arabic. The spoken language of the country is Lebanese Arabic (There's more dialects in Lebanon than just one, but anyway)

Also, we need some kind of source for the following : "It has Aramaic roots most similar to Phoenician language"

I'm not saying it might no be true, but there's need to be a source which clearly demonstrate this. I have some strange feeling that someone with an agenda has edited this.

GoulGoul1 (talk) 15:23, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

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