Talk:Culture of Mexico/Archive 1

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i changed it because it is realy 4.6 i live in mexico

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This whole thing about "Machismo" is a generalization. I can assure that this condition has progressively been changing in the last few years. --User:Francisco M. 4:12, 2 December 2006

qwgoing to be working extensively on this page in the coming weeks and months with the purpose of turning it into a feature article. ardvark and suggestions are welcome! Spangineer 23:55, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)
 * also, information about the cult to "la santa muerte" practiced by some Mexican criminals and about the increasing freedom of speech (Fox is the first Mexican president of whom Mexicans have made fun of while being president).
 * Feature Mexican-American communities throughout the US. Especially, Los Angeles, Dallas, San Diego, Denver, Chicago, New York state, Florida state, San Antonio etc...
 * actually, the Mexican communities in U.S. should be in a page linked to the U.S. culture, since is with the americans whom with they has the most direct interaction. and also can allow to show the relationship the Mexican immigrants, other Hispanic inmigrants, Americans of Hispanic heritage, non-Hispanic inmigrants and the Average Anglophone Americans have.

Philosophy of MTexico would also be interesting to add.
 * about Méxican ideology is sad to discover than many here still believe in thinks like: "if I think a law is unfair I willn't obey it".

I'd like to help improve this article. It is on my to-do list. If you'd like to coordinate before major undertakings, reach me at my talkpage. The revert I did today mentioned the tradition of Las Posadas, which deserves mention. But it was out of place, ungrammatical, and unsourced. So as long as we mention las Posadas in our rewrite, I think that contributor will be contented.--Rockero 03:30, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

- "also explains the general lack of conviction among Mexican Catholics today" What? Mexicans are some of the most religious people on the world. Church attendance is much higher than in the United States and far more people identify themselves as being religious than in the West.I LOVE ME MYSLEF Gabriel

im mexican and i dont go to the church, that is a stereotype

The language section needs some major work, focusing half of the section of a term like "chingar" is innapropriate and misrepresents the full extent of the richness and history of spanish spoken in Mexico. It should be noted that Spanish developed in spain, so has influences from surrounding regions including arabic. Of course regional idioms should be mentioned, but if you mention one vernacular term, it should be mentioned that colloquialisms occur throughout the country and vary depending on the natives of the region, the occupants over time, and colonization. Maybe the development of spanish in Mexico would be a better starting point that would allow explanation of the incorporation of various languages and cultures the vernacular.

Religion: The statements on religion have no references, such sweeping generalizations should have some sort of backing, at least some statistics. 129.81.124.42 01:45, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * You're right about the language section, but the fact that Paz spends so much time on that one word suggests that the section on Chingar should stay, although it might be condensed somewhat. As for the religion information, that's in the CIA world factbook (see external links); I'll change that to a reference when I can. --Spangineer[es]  (háblame)  12:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

The part about adultery is too excessive. While adultery might be somewhat common in some areas, it's not at all a "social norm." Catholicism certainly doesn't approve of it. The cult of la muerte is important. And it's not just criminals, but also the police and anyone with dangerous jobs. Día del los muertos is very important also, and lately, it's been extended to last two days, because of the adoption of Halloween in urban areas.

Language
What does the first sentence in the section about language mean?: "Spanish is the official language of Mexico because they do not speak French." It leaves me completely baffled. Historically speaking, Mexicans speak Spanish because the Spaniards conquered the territory. Maybe the sentence means that the French were unable to impose their rule on Mexico, despite their various attempts. (Did the French even attempt to make French the official lange of Mexico?) One could just as well say that Spanish is the official language of Mexico because they don't speak Farsi. Further, were Spanish the official language it would be because there was a law that said such. In fact, the "Mexico" says: "The Mexican Constitution does not mention the existence of a de-jure official language, however Spanish is spoken by 93% of the population and used for all official purposes, making it a de-facto official language. Nonetheless, the Law of Linguistic Rights, approved in 2001, grants all 62 indigenous languages spoken in Mexico the same validity as Spanish in all territories in which they are spoken, and all indigenous peoples are entitled to request documents and some public services in their languages. Along with Spanish, they have the legal status of "national languages". Approximately 6% of the Mexican population speaks an indigenous language, and 3% are not bilingual with Spanish. Of these, Nahuatl is spoken by 1.5 million and Maya by 0.8 million; while others, like Lacandon, are spoken by fewer than one hundred people. The Mexican government has promoted and established bilingual education programs in some indigenous rural communities." )As an aside, I don't know what language the 4 per cent. of Mexicans who speak neither Spanish [93 per cent.] or exclusively an indigenous language [3 per cent.] speak. I have trouble believing that there are so many mono-lingual foreigners in Mexico, and Mexico isn't really an immigrant country, and most immigrants in Mexico whom I have met also speak Spanish.) Finally, I would add a link to languages of Mexico. 72.88.237.89 04:39, 8 January 2007 (UTC)Regiomontana
 * That was vandalism, now removed. I've added the link as per your suggestion. Thanks for your input! --Spangineerws  (háblame)  04:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

How Spanish became the predominant language throughout Mexico and Latin America was a gradual process that took place over decades, so it's a bit reductive to simply attribute it to 'conquest'. With a large number of the indigenous population succumbing to Eurasian diseases over the following years, the Spanish speaking mixed-raced (not solely European) ethnic group which was more immune to introduced diseases was able to gain ascendancy and contributed in Spanish being spread over the continent via colonization.

Nationalism
I think an article should be added to the main page which describes Nationalism in Mexico, it is well known that in mexico, the media, and anything related to the country including decisions are highly regarded by nationalistic sentiments. My reasons are:

1. due to the fact that mexico has among the highest nationalism in the world.

2. no article ever mentions it, yet it is extremely in the mexican culture.

If no significant responses are made, i myself would gladly, and well studied respectively, will added. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jerahad (talk • contribs).

I think that is definatley relevant, but perhaps associate it in terms of children at school singing the National anthem and build up to the previous World Cup, Mwheatley1990 (talk) 16:21, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

FOOD
ITS GOOD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.164.235.138 (talk) 21:52, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

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