Talk:Cumbria shootings

"Lock-Down" of Sellafield
The last paragraph of the section, titled "Suspect's Suicide" states that Sellafield closed its gates during the event, and that it "...was the first lock-down in the history of the plant." In fact, it was almost certainly the second. The first lock-down was in October 1957 when one of the nuclear piles caught fire. Nothing was let in or out - people or goods. My father was working there at the time, and he (and his colleagues) were not allowed to leave the site for nearly 24 hours.

Taff Hewitt (talk) 23:07, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

British history
"Along with the 1987 Hungerford massacre, the 1989 Monkseaton shootings, and the 1996 Dunblane school massacre, it is one of the worst criminal acts involving firearms in British history."

-- PBS (talk) 07:36, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) What does "worst criminal acts" mean? what does worse mean? For example is the killing of two family members by a third member "worse" than the assassination (eg the assassination of a prime minister)?
 * 2) What does "British history" mean? does it mean the current UK, or all of recorded history on the island of Great Britain, or any crime since the the act of union in 1707 of Great Britain. If the former then what about for example Warrenpoint ambush where most were killed by explosives, but firearms were used by both the IRA and the British Army? If the latter then what about the Battle of Culloden?
 * 3) What does "acts involving firearms" mean? There have been many criminal acts resulting in mass killing involving the use of firearms by the authorities for example many times when the riot act was read, or more recently the Loughgall ambush in Northern Ireland.

"Shooting spree"
Per a discussion at Plymouth shooting, I think the opening sentence here could be improved. "Spree shooting" is tonally dubious (there might be a BrEng vs AmEng issue here), is a slight easter-egg link to the article "spree killer", which itself very much questions the criminological distinction, if any, with mass murder (not to mention mass shooting). 109.255.211.6 (talk) 18:47, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

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Prime Minister
In the UK 'prime Minister' is a job not a title. This is noted in Wikipedia's on article, to quote 'As "prime minister" is a position, not a title, the incumbent should be referred to as "the prime minister". The title "Prime Minister" (e.g. "Prime Minister Rishi Sunak") is technically incorrect but is sometimes used erroneously outside the United Kingdom'

93.204.186.108 (talk) 08:03, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Nonsense, it's used all the time in the UK, so of course it's correct. See, for example, our colleagues at the Encyclopaedia Britannica: "Echoing the third-way paradigm that had been promoted by President Bill Clinton in the United States and Prime Minister Tony Blair in Britain, Macron proposed a centre-left fusion of populism and neoliberalism." Or what about the BBC: "Labour's proposed reforms to the British political system would "make the UK work for Scotland", former prime minister Gordon Brown has said."? Or The Times: "Prime Minister Boris Johnson meets supporters at a pub in Wolverhampton"? Please stop being disruptive. Thanks, Ericoides (talk) 18:16, 1 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Please review the relevant Wikipedia article (which is quoted above) that clearly states the 'Prime Minister' is not a title. Also, please review Wikipedia's guidelines about civility and assuming good faith: hence why 'nonsense' and 'stop being disruptive' are inappropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:D3:FF3D:3397:1098:5D56:B8DF:8154 (talk) 19:33, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not itself a reliable source. The sources I've given, and there are thousands upon thousands more, show that the usage of the phrase is perfectly acceptable. You are being disruptive, reverting User:Materialscientist multiple times, and now me.  Ericoides (talk) 20:30, 2 November 2023 (UTC)