Talk:Cunning folk

Reference to 6th and 7th books of moses
The link here references “black books” and the “sixth and seventh Books of Moses” which is an occult text, but mistakenly links to the biblical canon rather than to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_and_Seventh_Books_of_Moses 2601:18A:C77E:42D0:989C:32B5:B9C7:AE94 (talk) 04:57, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Modern aromatherapy spellbooks as a reliable source on historical topics
I've recently removed a reference to a spell book written a few years ago by an aromatherapist. has added the source back in. I'd like to challenge it's appropriateness as a reliable source. There are 8 references to Judika Illes, The Element Encyclopedia of 5,000 Spells: The Ultimate Reference Book for the Magical Arts in this article Underwoods Witch (talk) 06:24, 19 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Removing the source that supports a given piece of content without attempting to source it elsewhere or otherwise clarify the text just degrades the page. If you think a better source should be used, you can add a 'better source needed' tag and discuss how to improve it. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:31, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It is a pretty iffy source. Slatersteven (talk) 15:29, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The author is theoretically a non-fiction writer, but if the verdict is iffy, then attribution is surely still the route? Removing the reference while leaving the content is just rendering in Wikivoice that which should be attributed. Iskandar323 (talk) 16:04, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * May still have undue issues, why is this persons opinion worthy of note, they (as far as I can tell) are not an accredited academic. Slatersteven (talk) 16:05, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Perhaps. But removing it along with the content is a different edit. Iskandar323 (talk) 16:11, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * For what its worth, this book describes itself as "This is the real version of the archetypal master spell book of fantasy that has a place in our collective imagination."
 * The content it is backing up is almost certainly a recent invention of this author. Underwoods Witch (talk) 17:40, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * So it should all be removed as fringy. 16:12, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Judika Illes, The Element Encyclopedia of 5,000 Spells: The Ultimate Reference Book for the Magical Arts (Element: London, 2004), and Wiccan HP Stewart Farrar are used to source Russian healers in the Russia section. I don't think either are WP:RS for Russian history and folklore, given the way they spin the material. I've removed some, but I think more needs to be cut, as well. - CorbieVreccan  ☊ ☼ 21:21, 19 August 2023 (UTC)