Talk:Cup of the Ptolemies

Ptolemys vs. Ptolemies
Hi all! I saw that recently moved this page. I was wondering if there is any specific Wikipedia policy that says to favor "Ptolemys" over the original "Ptolemies"? A Google search suggests that "Cup of the Ptolemies" is by far the most common spelling, and an Ngram search shows that "Ptolemies" is itself more popular than "Ptolemys". WP:COMMONNAME suggests that we use the most "commonly recognizable name", so I thought it was worth discussing.--Gen. Quon[Talk] 16:11, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes - "Ptolemys" hardly seems to be used at all. Johnbod (talk) 18:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I was relying on the pluralisation rules for human last names ending in -y, for which one can find numerous sites. Here's one: Merriam-Webster: Plural and Possessive Names: A Guide:
 * ''Unlike regular nouns that end in y, names that end in y are also made plural by adding -s:
 * the Kennedy clan → the Kennedys
 * the Daley family → the Daleys.


 * It's the same with "the two Marys", not "the two Maries". Kerrys, Perrys, Hollys, Murrays, and so on - not Kerries, Perries, Hollies or Murraies. These rules enable us to write things like: "The three Berrys (Jim, Mary and Bruce) were eating berries". --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That's understandable, but I don't think that fully gels with Wikipedia's rules about common names, etc.--Gen. Quon[Talk] 23:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Most rules have exceptions, and if you look at a Gbooks search, this is clearly one of them. There may well be others. Always best to check these things. Johnbod (talk) 03:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)