Talk:Cuzcatlan

Factual concerns
There's still an abundance of mythology indistinguished from any factual record (which is much less certainly known than this article portrays), combined I think with some 'traditions' that are not documented in any known reliable source. See talk:The Maya Lenca Principality for comments on a similarly originated and equally problematic article, that we used to have around here. Needs a good deal more input from reliable sources. --cjllw ʘ  TALK 04:55, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Editing
I'm slowly editing this page, which seems to have been completely translated word-for-word from Spanish and pasted. Still working on it. Some extra help would be great since I'm a novice when it comes to wikipedia, but all the information is factual, and I will add reliable sources to the article.

KeniKex 17:04, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi KeniKex, and welcome to wikipedia! You'd be most welcome to expand and fix up this page, which has been wanting attention ever since it was created. The article's initiator I believe is a native spanish-speaker with an imperfect command of english, hence a lot of awkward phrasing. Also I suspect they are affiliated in some way with one or two of the external websites where some of this material appears; however, as I noted above I would not regard those websites as reliable sources of information. I would still stand by my earlier assessment, that there's a lot here that is neither factual nor independently/reliably verified. Even some of the websites apparently used for sourcing this article in the ext links section (those that are not out-and-out original research content) actually contradict some claims made here. For eg, the site hosted at Universidad Francisco Gavidia notes "la capital de los pipiles aun no ha sido establecida", ie the so-called Pipil "capital" has not been established; whereas this article seems to make the claim that Cuzcatlan served that function. There are numerous other issues that I'd see as being in dispute. I'm not saying everything here is questionable, but it really all needs to be re-examined from scratch.


 * The article firstly needs to be based on and accord with our WP:RS (reliable sources), WP:V (verifiability), and WP:UNDUE (no undue weight) policies and guidelines, among others. It needs sourcing from peer-reviewed journal articles, books & conference papers from reliable and well-regarded academic and scholarly publishing houses, & so on. And not, insubstantive semi-anonymous websites such as a couple of those presently listed.


 * I did make a start in accumulating some more reliable refs a while ago when I had designs on cleaning this article up; My attention here has been on other matters of late but I will see if I can't get at least these supplied to the article in some short time. If I'm able to free up some time will look to devote some of that to helping out with a rewrite. Anyways, pls feel free to work away at the article, you're efforts would be most welcome. Cheers, --cjllw ʘ  TALK 04:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

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Requested move 20 November 2020

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 18:33, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Kuskatan/Cuzcatan (Cuzcatlan) → Cuzcatlan – Per WP:COMMONAME, most books refer to this nation as Cuzcatlan, or else Cuzcatlán, like for instance the Historical Dictionary of El Salvador. LoosingIt (talk) 14:25, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Support Regardless of whether this is the most common spelling, the current name does not conform to guidelines about article titles. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 21:55, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Support renaming it "Cuzcatlán", the most common spelling. Alternative names can be given as well. Carlstak (talk) 16:25, 21 November 2020 (UTC)


 * The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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