Talk:Cyberbullying/Archive 2

Definition
The correct definition of cyberbullying is any form of harassment, tourment, or any situation where a victim is made to feel uncomfortable over an electronic medium. The mediums include, e-mail, i.m., text, website, blogs, or any other non-visual communication.

130.49.112.111 (talk) 01:38, 24 April 2008 (UTC)Turr

Hi all,

When I first coined the term cyberbullying nearly a decade ago I defined cyberbullying this way:

"Cyberbullying involves the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior by an individual or group, that is intended to harm others."

This definition seems to have gained widespread acceptance over time.

I did not make a specific list of Information and Communication Technologies (ICTs) as these change constantly and such a list would always leave something out. The key aspects of the definition are what defines bullying in all forms; that such behaviours are deliberate, repeated, and hostile.

It might interest you to know that I first read about this behaviour on postings to my http://www.bullying.org Website from young people who described being bullied online. I thought then that this behaviour was something (then) new and needed a new term to describe it. I borrowed from Canadian Science Fiction writer William Gibson who coined the term "cyberspace". I reasoned that if this was bullying in cyberspace, this should appropriately be identified as "cyberbullying". I created http://www.cyberbullying.ca to help prevent cyberbullying through education and awareness. Many people have told me they thought this was the world's first Website to specifically define and address cyberbullying.

Sincerely,

Bill Belsey

President, Bullying.org

Belsey (talk) 18:23, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism piece removed -off topic-
This text was removed today from the article "hi I'm here to expand ;) I sometime ges bullied in a cyber fashion. It's really sad for me, Sometimes I feel like committing suicide. I guess I probably shouldnt be writing this here, but the kids help phone is busy and I dont know what else to do." Person requires counselling contact numbers on the matter though. --220.239.179.128 (talk) 21:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Preventing and Addressing Cyber-bullying
Is this the place for advice? I think not. If there's no objection, I think I'll delete the above comment in a bit. Max Elstein 21:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Leave it, it is just a potential article modfication posted in 2005..

I'll archive it...--Zeraeph 21:55, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

NPOV
Ok, there was a NPOV tag added to this page... Can you please give your reasoning? I was bold and removed it... but I'll put it back given reasoning. (Signed: J.Smith)
 * I wasn't the one who added the tag but I have a problem with this line: Another problem is the increasingly common presence of computers in the private environments of adolescent bedrooms. This wrongly states that adolescents having computers and Internet access in their bedrooms is a bad thing and is not NPOV. I'd like to be bold and remove it but I'll wait a little while to see what others think. --WikiSlasher 13:53, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * There have been no objections and so I have removed the sentence. --WikiSlasher 05:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Summary Section?
First of all the summary section spells through as thru, so I'm fixing it. But second, do we need a summary for this? lwelyk 03:14, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Origins of cyberbullying
Cyberbullying wasn't invented until 1998??? It's been around since at least 1987. That was when I first saw it happening on a BBS.
 * I've deleted the entire section, there was no source and I couldn't find anything related to it using Google. --WikiSlasher 11:16, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Move
I propose we move this article back to "Cyberbullying" which is used by vast majority of current academic researchers and is also the most commonly used spelling. --Aybaba 13:11, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

"hisself ain't a word"
Sure is - south of the mason-dixon line! *chuckles* Whoever you are User:72.147.155.21, at the scrag end of a tense and trying day your apt edit summary had me almost falling off my seat laughing...oh yes, and "mea culpa"...I will never get caught doing THAT one again! --Zeraeph 19:48, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

i have no idea what you are saying

I think he said "Me a culprit".. not sure though, I don't pretend to be an expert on Ebonics or any other sub-sec of the American-English language. Gartral (talk) 06:44, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

A saying
Theres an old saying "Sticks and stones will break my bones..." I forget the rest. You people are lame, get a life, "Oh my god, someone said something mean, lets get them in trouble!" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.173.15.10 (talk) 14:13, 22 February 2007 (UTC).
 * "... but words can only drive me to take my own life" Mbthegreat 17:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Teresa Nielsen Hayden (not a friend of mine, I might add) wrote:


 * You know the nursery rhyme about sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me? Not true.  It does real damage.  Has a PTSD feel to it.  Joy is the engine of our spirits, and it takes it all away.  You get depressed, and hurt all over.  Your own words fail you.  The damage can last for years.


 * That’s the intended effect. It's meant to hurt -- to be so nauseating and dispiriting that the person who's the target shuts down and stops communicating. It's not just a matter of triumphing (albeit by grossly unfair means) in the argument of the moment.  The underlying message is:  We don't care about what's right, or fair, or accurate.  We care about winning.  If you stand against us, you will lose, and we will hurt you as much as we can for having fought us.  We will wreck your career, and hurt the people around you and the things you care for.  If you cry out, we will hurt you for that, too.


 * -- Davidkevin 00:58, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Do you get the point of the rhyme? I'll admit I've been hurt by words very badly (worse than I should have) and I'm sure they will continue to hurt me in the future, but the point is that someone hitting you on the head with a big-ass hammer is going to hurt a lot no matter what you think, but words only hurt as much as you let them.


 * Sounds like someone has a vendetta. This article sounds the exact same way.  Unfortunately, almost everything in this article is combatible by other pre-existing legislation, as well as perfectly legal measures a computer user can take to mask his electronic identification(IP's, DNS, etc.).  This entire war comes down to personal constitution, because the internet gives us all freedom of speech and action.  The more you readily make yourself available on the internet, the more you're exposing to be attacked, and it's the same way in real life.  The more famous you are, the more people are going to hate you.  No one is just going to IM you the first day you install AIM and photoshop pictures of you sucking off a dog, things don't work like that.  This isn't a matter of cyber-bullying, it's a matter of the internet imitating certain aspects of real life through different means.  Essentially, grow a backbone if you want to get around so much on the internet. People are bad, and the more encounter, the higher the chance of meeting a bad person is.  This is just common sense, and combatting it at all is laughable. --ZombieG


 * A vendetta is something done by a bully against a victim. For people to talk about bullying and defense from it is most certainly not a vendetta.


 * This kind of doublespeak equates justified defense with unjustified attack. They are not the same thing.  -- Davidkevin (talk) 17:02, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I 'm with Zombie. Trying to criminalize trolling and flaming is rediculous and idiotic.  Just as in real life, the internet is filled with morons.  If you can't handle morons on the internet, use more traditional means of communication.  To make this a big moral panic and to tie it in a bow of unfortunate events is sad and in the end, will look shameful. --RoyalB


 * Anonymous Coward, ZombieG, RoyalB talk: I would suspect you speak from ignorance or, possibly, in defense of your own behavior -- I don't know one way or the other on that.  Nonetheless, if it happens to you, you won't speak so callously then.  It's extremely common for people to downplay it until they themselves have been victimized.  -- Davidkevin (talk) 16:50, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, I have had my email account spammed to death by bullys in high school. I've been harassed via IM and yes, me and others have been been chat trolled.  All this before 2000.  The difference between you or me though is that I didn't sit in the corner and cry for an hour then call the police. I took responsibility for making my contact information availible to the public and then adapted to the situation.  I cleared out the spam everyday until they stopped after a week.  I never accepted anyone onto my IM unless I knew personally or via email the contact handle of that person I wished to conversate with and yes, me and others had a little fun with the troll until we reported it to the site running the chat.


 * Again, the world's full of morons and bullys and some of them will be armed with the highest of the high tech gadgets. But if all they can produce with wasted time and effort is spam and empty words on an IM screen, then it's pretty much ok to laugh it off and get on with life.


 * And again, Cyber-bullying is moral panic over flamers and trollers created by the PTA, sensationalistic local media and other groups who have no grasp of internet culture. Once they legislate the imprisonment and/or the litigation of trolls, who do you go after next? The Haters?--RoyalB


 * You go after the adults who drove their neighbor's teen-age daughter to suicide.


 * "The difference between you or me though is that I didn't sit in the corner and cry for an hour then call the police."


 * The difference between you and me is that I gave you the benefit of the doubt above, and I didn't put words into your mouth you didn't say and ascribe actions to you which in fact I wouldn't know if you did or not. The difference between you and me is that you appear from that statement to be just another common troll who thinks that through "makin' shit up" he can hurt a stranger to make himself feel superior.


 * There's are words to describe that sort of bad behavior: narcissism and sociopathy. -- Davidkevin (talk) 16:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I would like to gently remind my fellow editors that this is not a general discussion forum but the discussion page for an encyclopedia article. Please consider taking the conversation somewhere more appropriate or redirecting to discussing this article. -- ElKevbo (talk) 20:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Point taken. I'm done with Mr. It's-Okay-to-Drive-Teens-to-Suicide anyway.  -- Davidkevin (talk) 16:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Can Chat Rooms Really Be Used for Bullying?
How can chat rooms be used to bully people? You can quite simply leave the chat room or change your ID. The idea that you can bully someone makes very little sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.131.199 (talk • contribs)


 * I suppose you could say the same about anything. EG "If you are bullied at school you can bleach your hair or change school" - but real life doesn't work that way.


 * You leave the chat room, the bully can follow you, you can change your ID but you can't change your personality, it still shows enough to recognise, and BESIDES, the very fact that you are forced to try leaving the chat room, or changing your ID is already an invasion of your rights and freedoms.

--Zeraeph 12:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Your point is? This whole article is about invasion of Freedom of Speech. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.175.121.203 (talk) 16:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your feedback. You cannot change schools easily etc: I accept that, but in a chat room, all you are is a name on the page, which 99% of the time is fake. There is no information there that a bully can use to trace you (except perhaps email adresses on some, but not always, and you can always put up fake adresses-whenever I have to register for anything, I have a special account just for that so they can't spam me/send me hate mail). If you don't make any more posts etc, then what else can they do? While having to do so may be an "inavsion" of your rights, it all boils down to little more than an annoyance. Think about it: the bully is just a name on a screen, which can only cause you problems if you let it. All it really means is that some random guy on some random page does not like you. it's not as if they can bash you up or do anything like that. I guess what I'm saying is while it may be an annoyance, it's never going to be as damaging and traumatic as normal bulliyng can be.


 * P.S. The heading of this should have been "used", not "sued". That's my typing for you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.131.199 (talk • contribs)


 * It just isn't that simple. For one thing it depends on why you are posting in the chat-room in the first place. If it's just for entertainment and fun then yes, it is easy to walk away. But supposing it is important to your business or education? Then leaving could cause you a LOT of problems. A lot of Cyber-bullying takes place in the world on online support, where people have terrible problems, of various kinds, like bereavement, terminal cancer, domestic violence, and nowhere else to turn.


 * To be driven away from a vital support lifeline or business connection is MUCH worse than an "annoyance". A lot of Cyber-bullies are very clever. They try to get close to you, and find out your location and identity before they start bullying. Then they can cause a lot of distress and fear.--Zeraeph 01:10, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Guess you're right there. Depends on what you're doing on the site. I guess the only trick is not to something stupid like reveal your real ID or location until you're certain of who the person is. How many times have we all been told the first rule: never trust anyone you meet in a chat room. That's partly why people make aliases for this in the first place.


 * Oh, by the way, I've never heard of a chat room related to business connection. Not that I'm saying that to pay you out, just I've never thought of that before. But if it was something serious like that, surely there'd be other more secure ways to communicate with people other than a chat room, wouldn't there? (Example- use a secure private network between the person you're talinkg to, or find an alternate means of contacting them). Or if it was serious enough, then there'd probably be administrators to stop any bullies etc by removing them. Education? Same thing, and there's still the possibiltiy of moving to an alternate forum on the same topic.


 * As for online support, I guess you can hope for mediators/administrators etc to expel people who behave in such a way. (probably something you might find in that sort of thing), or you could perhaps go to a different forum on the same thing (although I won't deny that being forced to do so in that situation would be less than beneficial, at least).


 * Still, there are some things normal bullying can do that cyber-bulliyng can't. One other tactic (obviously depending on the format of the chat room in question) is simply don't click on messages by the bully. In some chat rooms, that works (you might have to click on the message before you read it). Remember, even though it may be a problem to be forced to leave, once you have done so, then the bully cannot do anything else (provided you haven't given them your address), whereas in traditional bullying, that can be a lot harder. Remember, for traditional bullying to work, you have to be near the bully (such as at the same school or workplace), which can cause a lot of fear and distress, especially if the bully spreads ruours etc. In a chat-room setting, the bully can be on the other side of the planet and know nothing about you except what you tell them. You can in fact ascertain their origin quite easily by tracking their IP address in some forums. And they can't exactly do things like spread insulting or false rumours, physically bully you, blackmail you, or anything like that. And even if they do get yor real ID, they would need a LOT of information on you to do anything else (even if they lived close to yourself, which is exceptionally unlikely). Unless you give them your address and/or telephone number, or an image of you, it will be very difficult for them to do anything else to you. The chances of them being close enough are very small: they would have to live, at the very least, in the same state as you (even then that probably wouldn't be enough- they would probably have to live in the same city, or part of the city as you). Even if you gave them all that, then the bully may still not do anything with it. Although it could be rather traumatic at first, the fear would probably subside as you eventually realised the "threat" wasn't real. The only way they could be a probelm if they weren't clsoe to you would be if you gave them some really important information like your credit card number or something like that, which is just downright stupid. The same thing goes with stuff like your phone number. Unless you do that, they're just words on a page.


 * Essentially, cyber bulliyng in this scenario has the limitation that you have to actually give the bully the information first. But yes, I will admit, it can still be a problem.


 * What the hell is this about your 'rights' to a chat room? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.128.95 (talk) 01:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Further more, why doesn't the user just ignore said comments in this chat room? What other alternatives are there? They could leave, yes. They could fight back, yes. Or they could just continue on with their business. In fact, how many chats allow a user to filter who you can and can not be blocked? Sure -- removing all the comments of a loud member will stick you out of context from the rest of the room if they decide not block this person. But what are we trying to prevent here -- our hero from receiving a bruise to the ego? Should this risk of personal wounding, should our hero decide to endure this 'torture' becomes something they subject themselves to, once the option of ignoring it becomes available. Worst case: the flamer convinces someone of an untrue belittling fact -- which is untrue, and so should be irrelevant once cleared up. Or would it be worse for this person to demolish our hero by exploiting negative history based on fact? Well hell -- now we are looking at the issue of having a finger shaken at us for doing something that, while perhaps demeaning, is still essentially true. But that's reality, for you.

A great deal of things which are said can have lasting effect on self confidence.Barbara Shack (talk) 20:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Can MMORPG be used for bullying?
If you have a durable character in an MMORPG that you don't want to abandon, can bullying occur? However, I'd say that MMORPG-based bullying is probably relatively rare-I'd reckon most people wouldn't be all that attached to a character, probably not enough for it to be particularly traumatic.
 * It most certainly can. Any method of communication can potentially be used for bullying. Interestingly, at a school one of my relatives teaches at (please excuse the anecdotal info; just rying to answer your question), there was a big issue with runescape- there were actually fights over it outside the game-people were hackign into each other's accounts.

Plagiarism
This entire article can be found at the following website: [] I read through the first couple sections and it matches word for word --67.172.225.189 09:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * That's because Reference.com is a Wikipedia mirror site and clearly states the article comes from here. --Zeraeph 12:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

made up term?
is it called flaming or cyber bullying?! because is it just me or is this a term made up by PTA mothers?


 * Yes. "Cyber-Bullying" is a made up word to generalize ignorant behavior that can easily be ignore on the internet. The term was created to whip up moral panic.--RoyalB


 * "It's moral panic because I say so" is not a valid citation; you'll need one if you want your bullshit bought. -- Davidkevin (talk) 14:33, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Flaming is insulting people over the net in an argument etc. Cyberbullying is differnet; it involves using the net etc to threaten people, amongst other things.  It also involves publishing defamatory material online, using hpones ot bully, etc.  It is usually more traumatic than flaming too.  Some types of flaming can also be called cyber bullying.  The term is new and doesn't seem to have a precide definition.


 * Think of them as domestic terrorists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.128.95 (talk) 01:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Glad I'm not the only one that thinks it's made-up moral panic nonsense. Count me in if this article is ever nominated for deletion again. --Wulf (talk) 00:28, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Think it all you want; think the world is flat while you're at it, you'll be just as accurate. In the meantime, if you want the notion that it's "moral panic" to be more valid than just because you say so, try providing a reliable citation.  -- Davidkevin (talk) 14:33, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

The Comic Book Universe Battles
There were several claims in this paragraph that were clearly the POV of whoever wrote it. While I, too, find this forum to be disgusting, Wikipedia exists to present facts - NOT opinions. I have removed or reworded these sentences to fit the NPOV guidelines. 72.185.43.62 04:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, after reviewing the paragraph as a whole, I don't feel it really belongs in this article. Users of The Comic Book Universe Battles know what they are getting into when going there, and in fact visit that site for that specific reason; it differs from real cyber-bullying in that they are arguing about comic book characters, and it occasionally gets personal - again, the users know what they are in for before they visit. The whole basis of this paragraph seemed to be that "the poor innocent children" who stumble on the site might see "vulgar" language, and that the use of copyrighted characters is immoral. Children seeing profanity is not cyber-bullying. And while I suppose that using copyrighted material COULD, in certain circumstances, be considered cyber-bullying, it is not in this case. I have removed the entire paragraph and believe it should remain gone until someone can justify why it belongs in this article at all. 72.185.43.62 05:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Nasty piece of stereotyping
"Additionally, cyber-bullies do not have to be larger and stronger than their victims, as had been the case in traditional bullying. Instead of a victim being several years younger and/or drastically weaker than his bully..."

As someone who is very tall, I object to the insinuation that larger people are bullies. I've never bullied anyone, but I have been bullied by others, especially people of average or shorter height - I think they do that as they want to be conspicuously dominant, and curiously enough popular - they want to be seen as a hero who attacks an outgroup. Even outside the cyberworld, plenty of bullying can be done verbally and by false reporting, neither of which require size. So I've deleted the passage. 80.2.199.14 (talk) 22:10, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh Lord. "Bullies are usually large[r than their victims]" is not at all the same thing as "Large people are usually bullies."  Use some common sense.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.132.218.4 (talk) 00:13, 12 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Regardless, what the hell is this about bullies being larger and stronger? You want to see some real bullying by the stereotypically 'dominant' partner? ...Let me introduce you to your typical (-) whipped boy friend!

I have a problem with the fact that someone wrote that cyber bullying is something only teens and pre-teens do, anyone can cyberbully and it is not limited to children! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.220.138.245 (talk) 02:44, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Identifying Cyber-bullies
I can't make heads or tails of what this section is trying to say. I believe it to be mentioning something profound about the difficulty in identifying a cyberbully without violating privacy policies, but I'm not entirely sure. It appears to be just plain babble. Kuronue | Talk 20:12, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I can't either, and I'm not sure if this article talks about what to do if you end up being a victim of cyber-bullying.--69.234.183.233 (talk) 02:03, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * That's not really the purpose of an encyclopedia, though. The purpose is merely to document the phenomenon. Kuronue | Talk 03:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Then perhaps WikiHow has something to say about it?--69.234.192.143 (talk) 16:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

There should be links in the article to anti-bullying websites.Barbara Shack (talk) 08:19, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

/b/rothas
Is it possible to connect the "/b/rothas" with /b/ using any reliable source? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 14:51, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope. Least you want to quote Scientologists.
 * --RoyalB —Preceding comment was added at 14:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

worldwide tag
i removed the worldwide tag from the top. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.204.209.93 (talk) 16:49, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Samantha Hahn, notable?
She is a victim of cyber-bullying when she was still a teenager and has appeared on a few news articles. Not only that, she is also an actress and has appeared on mainstream TV dramas like "Law and Order" and "As the World Turns". I believe she can be described in the "Cyberbullying awareness campaigns" section of the article.

Here is an IMDB profile of her: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1675735/bio An article about cyber-bullying that includes her in it: '''Vicki Haddock. "Teenagers Need Policing Online." At Issue: Policing the Internet. Ed. Peggy Daniels. Detroit: Greenhaven Press, 2007.''' Vicki Haddock is a journalist and staff writer for the San Francisco Chronicle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotbabygurl016 (talk • contribs) 22:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC) hi man

Wow...
In the interest of full disclosure, I was bullied to some extent as a child, as I'm sure many wikipedians were. I was the white kid at a school that was 80%+ black.

I'm not going to nominate this article for deletion or suggest anything of that nature, but it really saddens me to think that society feels that this is a major problem worthy of media attention. IMO it's just a bunch of bull. It's the same stuff kids have done since the beginning of time, and it should probably be merged into the general bullying article. It's a sad irony that no one cares about the normal variety of schoolyard bullying (until a school gets shot up.) But the second computers get involved it's suddenly the new ill that's destroying the fabric of our society. I seriously feel bad for anyone who thinks of cyberbullying as a unique concept worthy of its own article. (something about sticks and stones...)

Sorry if this offends your sensibilities, but I had to vent. Pygmypony (talk) 19:27, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, but note it's not a competition. Having a more detailed article here doesn't mean that the bullying article is less important. Mattnad (talk) 08:55, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Abso-freakin-lutely. People take words more seriously when they are written down than when you speak them face-to-face. The problem with cyberbullying, or any bullying, and I have been bullied too by the way, is that it is up to someone else to determine what is and isn't bullying. Suddenly our society cares? This is news to me. My teachers didn't much care that I was being bullied. I said to one, "She is picking on me", and the teacher said, "Picking on you?" to which she started poking the girl, and said, "I will pick on her back, Pick Pick Pick!". I didn't find it funny to be belittled every day but she did. Is this law supposed to change that? What is the purpose of this article? To document WHAT EXACTLY?! Who is to determine who is bullying who? If I start to bully you, does that mean I am harassing you, or maybe you egged me on for long enough until I snapped, started bullying you, online or offline, and you realized how much weaker you were than I was--would that classify as Bullying, and if so, who? If you are going to document it then do it correctly. As it stands now this article should be deleted and obviously a lot of people agree. 76.180.55.81 (talk) 12:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Proper name
This article has two versions of the term. "Cyber-bullying" is the less common usage, appearing in Google 497,000 times. The non-hyphenated "cyberbullying" term appears 1,130,000 times in Google searches and seems to be used by professional researchers. I don't see why we wouldn't want to settle on the latter throughout the article (with a single mention of the hyphenated alternative) and rename the article accordingly. Comments? Mattnad (talk) 09:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure, I have a comment. This article should be deleted... but don't cry about it, I'm not "bullying" you over it. ;-) 76.180.55.81 (talk) 12:48, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Biased language
From the Cyber-bullying defined section:

"Online bullying, called cyberbullying, happens when teens use the Internet, cell phones, or other devices to send or post text or images intended to hurt or embarrass another person."

Teens aren't the only people who can cyber-bully. There are a great deal of adults who can cyber-bully; I resent the use of the word 'teens.'

I would edit it if I could, but it's locked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.183.158 (talk) 04:40, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

✅ I have cleaned up that section. Colonel Warden (talk) 19:56, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Also, could little kids like cyberbully, too? I don't know, but maybe if something angers them, they say mean things to another person over the web. In that case, the little kid, not-knowingly, cyberbullys the other person. But I don't know; maybe I'm overanalyzing this. PlatypiPwn (talk) 12:27, 11 April 2009 (UTC) PlatypiPwn

They are sometimes known as
cyber gangsta, cyberthug or simply E-Thug or Internet thug 208.120.47.96 (talk) 14:15, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Interesting fact, but most people call them cyberbullies (I think). :P PlatypiPwn (talk) 12:29, 11 April 2009 (UTC) PlatypiPwn

Merger with Harassment by computer
The two cover very similar areas, and the harassment by computer could be incorporated into the Cyber-bullying page.Captain Gamma (talk) 00:50, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

A recent new article, Cyber-aggression in the workplace, would seem to belong here as well, as it claims to be the same thing as Harassment by computer. It provides a list of references, but no footnotes and the tone is poor. Marasmusine (talk) 16:27, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Mass hate
I think you should point out another 'advantage' of cyber-bullying, which is to imply more people than real life would allow to. One may be beaten up by five persons in real life, but on the internet, one can turn dozens, hundreds of people against a person or a group. Notable examples are the harassment and online humiliations perpetrated from time to time by communities like the *chans (who claim to do it 'for the lulz'), or the systematic trolling of furry fans (though it appears to be more of a meme).

Just voicing my opinion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.159.181.140 (talk) 19:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Most of this article is preposterous :(
Does a person's right to not be insulted outweigh my right to speak freely? I think most people (and very nearly all people of "internet culture" ... make that all since that's actually one of the tenets of internet culture) would say no. I see two possibilities for fixing the article:
 * Adding a substantial controversy section
 * Making the "pro" argument more substantial than think of children with hurt feelings! As it's presented currently it doesn't answer the classic objection "Perhaps we do the minors of this country harm if First Amendment protections, which they will with age inherit fully, are chipped away in the name of their protection." - District Judge Lowell A. Reed, Jr. I suspect that there is no more substantial argument but you can certainly try.

Anyway as it stands it reads like a propaganda pamphlet. Some questions that at least need addressing are:
 * Doesn't the community have the right to eject users it doesn't like?
 * Is the community obligated to accept everyone, and is this realistic?
 * Doesn't removing the possibility of humiliation radically change the discussion's dynamic and encourage bad ideas and stupid users? Can you have an honest conversation with strong restrictions on what you can express?
 * Is it our responsibility to keep kids happy and innocent?
 * Is it still our responsiblity when it comes at the cost of our personal liberties?

.froth. (talk) 16:07, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I completely agree with you here this article is very one sided and doesn't account for legislation's violation of freedom of speech. This article tries to make a strong case for written threats of harm which are already illegal (called assault: threat to do bodily harm against said person).


 * --Kibbled bits (talk) 16:52, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Tell someone
Its a fact.1 in 3 children would have experianced cyber bullying by the time they are 15 years old. This is caused to them not telling an family member or an adult. So if you are someone who is experiancing cyber bullying, i am warning you, tell someone you trust Cyber bullying can lead to suicide. It can get very serious if you deal it the wrong way.

Liz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.68.95.167 (talk) 22:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Numbers?
Am currently reading the book 'risk - the science and fear of politics' following on from that I'd like to see more detailed information about the bullying stats e.g. 42% of kids 'bullied' 1 in 4 more than once Well, as far as I can see, bullying is a sustained campaign of intimidation So already you're down to 1 in 10 And define 'bullying': an email saying 'you're an idiot' vs repeated emails saying 'if you don't do X we're going to beat the crap out of you'. If it's the former, then we must bully one another all day where I work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.218.213.158 (talk) 20:39, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Digital Social Norm Enforcement
This study may be useful here. http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0155923 Rhoark (talk) 14:34, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

China
Cyberbullying has became a new phenomenon over the digital age. I would like to edit the section in China about this topic. It has not grasp the attention of scholarly in China, especially in the mainland. Victims mostly among teenagers and people with lower academic achievement participate more than those with good academic achievement. It will be an important section to explore.Mei0908 (talk) 17:24, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Peer Review
At the moment it is good but it can be improved and it is interesting to see at another perspective. i would add years that it has impacted the internet for cyberbulling. these would help the article by showing how it has changed for the worst and to show a degree of change. i don't believe that this would impact my article by much (Jwuerfel (talk) 01:21, 11 November 2016 (UTC)).

Cyberbullying and racism here on Wikipedia, talk post removed again
I'm still being bullied here on Wikipedia by some of the more racist editors. They've blocked me for 4 years in total simply because I correct some anti-black, anti-African, racist articles. I have a new router due to the bullying of my IP address, and again the talk articles I post are removed. How do you have a Wikipedia article about cyberbullying but then allow bulling right here on the same page. Talk about paradoxes. Again, I shall take screen shots and later take screenshot when this post is removed by the fascists.== — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:DDC7:1700:8DFB:41E:EA43:7187 (talk) 15:09, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Please remove the number= parameter from the citation "Psychosocial risk factors associated with cyberbullying among adolescents: A population-based study" in the section Finland, since it is redundant(causes CS1 error because it already has an issue= parameter) and the issue= parameter is more appropriate(this journal is published periodically(monthly)). 47.148.79.80 (talk) 19:59, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
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Cyber Bullying Statistics
Cyberbullying is just an easier access to attack another person. Girls tend to get bullied more through cyberbullying in their life 40.6% because girls are meaner. As technology is growing cyberbullying is getting worse to the point 20% of children think about committing suicide. When a child is getting bullied they either refuse or make excuses to not go to school or they don’t have friends anymore some children tend to get angry with everyone due to the emotions building up that they get aggressive. The side effects of cyberbullying children and young adults usually get into a depression or they get low self esteem some tend to harm themselves or commit suicide.

Sources

Raatma, Lucia. Cyberbullying. Danbury, CT: Children's, 2013. Print. Eserrano30 (talk) 21:47, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
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REQUEST FOR ADDITION OF ACTUAL SOCIAL MEDIA CYBERBULLYING EXAMPLES TO SOCIAL MEDIA SECTION BELOW (remove this line before publishing addition)

In social media
Cyberbullying can take place on social media sites such as Facebook, Myspace, and Twitter. "By 2008, 93% of young people between the ages of 12 and 17 were online. In fact, youth spend more time with media than any single other activity besides sleeping." The last decade has witnessed a surge of cyberbullying, bullying that occurs through the use of electronic communication technologies, such as e-mail, instant messaging, social media, online gaming, or through digital messages or images sent to a cellular phone.

There are many risks attached to social media sites, and cyberbullying is one of the larger risks. One million children were harassed, threatened or subjected to other forms of cyberbullying on Facebook during the past year, while 90 percent of social-media-using teens who have witnessed online cruelty say they have ignored mean behavior on social media, and 35 percent have done this frequently. 95 percent of social-media-using teens who have witnessed cruel behavior on social networking sites say they have seen others ignoring the mean behavior, and 55 percent witness this frequently.

According to a 2013 Pew Research study, eight out of 10 teens who use social media share more information about themselves than they have in the past. This includes location, images, and contact information. "The most recent case of cyber-bullying and illegal activity on Facebook involved a memorial page for the young boys who lost their lives to suicide due to anti-gay bullying. The page quickly turned into a virtual grave desecration and platform condoning gay teen suicide and the murdering of homosexuals. Photos were posted of executed homosexuals, desecrated photos of the boys who died and supposed snuff photos of gays who have been murdered. Along with this were thousands of comments encouraging murder sprees against gays, encouragement of gay teen suicide, death threats etc. In addition, the page continually exhibited pornography to minors." In order to protect children, it's important that personal information such as age, birthday, school/church, phone number, etc. be kept confidential.

Cyberbullying can also take place through the use of websites belonging to certain groups to effectively request the targeting of another individual or group. An example of this is the bullying of climate scientists and activists.

Below is an actual example of real cyberbullying from the 45th President of the United States of America, via Twitter profile @realDonaldTrump. Twitter is a popular social media communications channel. The following examples, which took place on Twitter, should be viewed as 1 complete incident of cyberbullying directed at television talk show hosts from the MSNBC television network. Because Twitter has a character limitation, the comments were distributed over 2 "tweets".

Cyber Bullying Example 1/2: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/880408582310776832 Cyber Bullying Example 2/2: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/880410114456465411 Digitalprotector (talk) 18:23, 26 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Your request involves adding the final paragraph about Donald Trump. The occurrence of one public figure using social media to criticize another public figure is fairly common in politics and generally wouldn't be considered cyberbullying and therefore off topic for this article.  This appears to be an attempt to shoehorn gratuitous criticism of Donald Trump into this article.  Criticism of Trump's use of social media would be better incorporated into the article Donald Trump on social media.  Deli nk (talk) 18:40, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

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Redundant info/sections
There's some redundant info located quite close together here, under the "Harmful effects" section. The suicides of specific bullied kids are referred to several times in a way I find redundant. However, I've pretty much had it with editing this article... anyone else feel like tightening up the wording here? Low priority but thought I'd mention it. Thanks. Jessicapierce (talk) 18:33, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Editing
I plan on adding some statistics on suicide rates caused by cyberbulling, and also some averages of ages who experience this bullying.Brianna Bridgewater (talk) 20:38, 8 March 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianna Bridgewater (talk • contribs) 17:05, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Politics
I'm suggesting the addition of "Politics" section under Section 4, the research section. This would appear below the "Gender" section.

According to a 2017 Pew Research study on Online Harassment, 14% of Americans have been harassed because of their political views. Such harassment affects men and women differently. 11% of women say they have been targeted because of gender compared to 5% for men. Men are about twice as likely as women to have experienced online harassment because of their political views. However, women politicians are disproportionately more likely to be sexually harassed online. Women lawmakers are three times more likely than their male counterparts to receive sexually abusive comments, including threats of rape, beatings, death, or abduction. 

Jycheng1 (talk) 05:54, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Thank you. --MrClog (talk) 19:48, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Decreasing Bullying and Cyber Bullying in Schools
The increased use of social media by our children is creating a platform for bullying in schools. Monitoring their behavior online and early intervention by both parents and schools will help with decreasing this epidemic. Data from the national Youth Risk Behavior Survey (YRBS) showed in 2017, 19% of high school students were bullied on school property and 15% were bullied online (CDC, 2018). The same motivations that lead adolescents to bully in a traditional sense have now moved on to social media sites like Facebook and Instagram (Carter, 2013). Due to negative impact of bullying and cyberbullying, schools need to have a protocol and a resolution when an incident is reported. By coming up with specific strategies that teachers can utilize, they can have a direct impact on the cyberbullying incident (Stauffer, Heath, Coyne, & Ferrin, 2012). Having the teacher sit down with the bully and the victim proved to be a useful strategy in helping mediate the situation (Stauffer, Heath, Coyne, & Ferrin, 2012). There are many measures that can be taken at home and in school that can help with early intervention of bullying. Monitoring students’ online behavior closely and making sure that they are using “Cyber-Kindness” when they are online will help. Promoting healthy, positive online behavior along with education into cyber bullying will make kids less likely to victimize. Having an open line of communication with your child and their school will help if a situation comes up it can be dealt with as soon as possible. Having guidelines for both teachers and parents that lay out information that they can utilize like bringing both students in, and taking away privileges, will help with this increasing problem.

References: Carter, M. (2013). Protecting oneself from cyber bulling on social media sites. Social and Behavioral Sciences 93, 1225-1235. Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) (2018). The Relationship Between Bullying and Suicide: What We Know and What It Means For Schools. Retrieved from https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/bullying-suicide-translation-final-a Stauffer, S., Heath, M.A., Coyne, S.M., Ferrin, S. (2012). High School Teachers’ Perceptions of             Cyberbullying Prevention and Intervention Strategies. Psychology in the Schools. Vol. 49(4). Doi:10.1002/pits.21603 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aburgey (talk • contribs) 19:12, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

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Trolling
I think it's important to eventually add a section to this article specifically focusing on trolling in online spaces. It is mentioned in passing throughout the article, but it could be useful to provide a clear definition of the term as well as statistics linking trolling to the accessibility and effects of cyberbullying. --98hmarie (talk) 04:21, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Cringe Compilations
Can we consider the Cringe compilations on YouTube as pure definition Cyberbullying? and why it exist just to make fun of others. 05/18/19

Oh no someone made a joke on the internet...how awful Pyromilke (talk) 12:33, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Cringe compilations are videos made by the people in the normative hating on those who aren't in it, this should just be another topic for the "jokes at the expense of others", which is a topic that, if mentioned, would cover the topic more broadly (don't know what broadly is but I guess I used it right). --FranSauce8 (talk) 18:16, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

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Cyberbullying isn't real
You cannont be bullied if it is easily preventable via blocking, even if they make more accounts it takes two seconds to block someone. And therefore Cyberbullying isn't real. Pyromilke (talk) 12:29, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Your name is Paul Riggie, you live in Redmond, Washington, at the seattle metropolitan area, you're 17 years old, you are born from a mexican mother and an american dad and you have no friends at school. All this info is false, of course, the location I gave was the microsoft building so at most go cyberbully microsoft, but think about the fact that I just gave some personal info, yes, you can block the message, but your info just got exposed, blocking me won't mean anything and now your personal life is threatened. That's the issue, blocking just stops communication, what is being discussed here is not "meanie words" but "getting a pedo come to your house and rape you", and similar topics.

The causes of it
Could someone make a topic about what causes cyberbullying to occur? this ain't some "evil villain does evil things because evil is magic evil" that #### doesn't occur in the real world, everything always happens for a reason, I would want to see some topics mentioning common traits, common experiences or similar topics. Like, if the perpetuator was punched by their own dad or if the abuser was rejected their entire life. I don't know exactly, but what I want to see most of it is maturity. Think about how when you're put in stressful situations a mature person is capable of being under control and a childish person just bursts into attacks, if there's any link between psychological maturity and the cyberbully's state of mind it would be really necessary to put in. I get if "oh no I feel bad for the bully" doesn't go in, but what's most important is to clarify that the struggles they had were above them, not them above the struggles. What I want to see is if they usually experienced a bad life (which is usually the case) and if they had the, don't know if this exists but, emotional maturity to confront the issue.

Just leaving this here that I had thought for a while, "the difference between a hero and a villain is that, when being put in front of their life struggles, a hero forgives, a villain doesn't", maybe there's something that can be put in. Don't know...

--FranSauce8 (talk) 18:36, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

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Dmace12 (talk) 03:53, 3 October 2021 (UTC) Current cyberbullying studies highlighted issues such as the high volume of cyberbullying incidents in school, increased personal information disclosure on social media, peer influences and the safety of the school environment for both bully and victim.Tackling cyberbullying requires awareness, education for actors involved in cyberbullying, development of software to detect cyberbullying and including actors in the monitoring of cyberbullying.
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English
Discuss how do emojis are used to illustrate cyberbullying 41.78.212.74 (talk) 12:22, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

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This paragraph, under Legislation, under European Union, repeats words

"In 1993, Sweden was the first European Union country to have a law against cyberbullying. The Ordinance on Victimization at Work protected victims from "recurrent reprehensible or distinctly negative actions which are directed which are directed against individual employees in an offensive manner and can result in those employees being placed outside the workplace community".

"which are directed" is found twice in a row in the paragraph — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.188.47.244 (talk) 15:22, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

See also section
The See also links need to be alphabetized.

Also, would someone with editing privileges please add a wikilink for Virtual crime to the See also section?

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Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2022
In the Protection section, we have this:

Several states, including Florida, California,[77] and Missouri have passed laws against cyberbullying. California prohibits the use of an electronic device to cause someone to fear for their life.[78] In Florida, the "Jeffrey Johnson Stand Up for All Students Act" prohibits any type of bullying including cyberbullying. In Missouri, anyone who violently threatens someone over social media can be convicted with a Class A misdemeanor, but if the victim is seventeen years or younger, they can be convicted with a Class D felony.[79]

I would change the first sentence (which is very outdated) to read something like: Almost every state has in place a bullying law under which cyberbullying is covered, although they vary in whether and how they criminalize the act, require formal school policy inclusion and sanctions, and codify whether online behavior that occurs off-campus can be subject to discipline. (citation: https://cyberbullying.org/bullying-laws) Windsurfer19 (talk) 19:50, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
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Consider adding a new section under Research:

2022

A meta-analysis and systematic review of 50 primary studies by joshua Polanin and colleagues involving over 45,000 participants across multiple countries identified that cyberbullying prevention programs in general were successful in reducing both cyberbullying offending and victimization at a statistically-significant level. The contents of these programs ranged across seven categories, including skill-building, curricula and prepared materials, psychoeducation (i.e., increasing awareness and knowledge), multimedia materials, training, school climate or school policy efforts, and individual/group targeted efforts. Windsurfer19 (talk) 20:18, 26 July 2022 (UTC)


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After this paragraph:

Research has demonstrated a number of serious consequences of cyberbullying victimisation.[12] Specific statistics on the negative effects of cyberbullying differ by country and other demographics. Some researchers point out there could be some way to use modern computer techniques to determine and stopping cyberbullying.[13]

Consider adding something like:

Some research has suggested an uptick in cyberbullying during the COVID-19 pandemic when many youth and adults were quarantined at home and, as a consequence, online more often than before the pandemic. For example, a study of adults published in the Journal of Social Psychology identified statistically significant increases in pro-cyberbullying attitudes as well as in cyberbullying offending behaviors. However, another study published in Aggressive Behavior by Tracy Vaillancourt and colleagues involving over 6,500 Canadian youth in grades 4-12 did not find higher rates of cyberbullying involvement; the authors speculated that this might be a result of closer monitoring and involvement of online activities by parents while their children were at home. Windsurfer19 (talk) 20:52, 26 July 2022 (UTC)


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I think the that the words "sexual remarks" (found very close to the start of the text) should be linked to the "Sexual Harassment" page. IHaveNoIdeaHowToCallMyself (talk) 11:11, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
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