Talk:Cyberfeminism

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Encyclopaedic?
My cause for concern is the article's (apparently) serious citation of a thesis on "Quantum Feminist Mnemotechnics". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.186.1.188 (talk) 05:10, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
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Opening paragraph
I am an undergrad who is exploring feminism within Wikipedia. I am responsible for making suggestions while I'm learning to edit for the site. After reading the opening paragraph on cyberfeminism, I noted a statement which seemed to be based on personal observation: "Cyberfeminists resist rigid definitions of their movement..." This statement, in my humble opinion, is subjective and too general because there is no way to measure how all cyberfeminists feel about rigid definitions. I'd like to suggest rewriting this statement to be more objective. It could also potentially open up a new link to the feminist keyword, "difference." For example, I suggest noting that because the movement's members are intergenerational and worldwide, cyberfeminism is a collective movement. Femsation (talk) 17:34, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for removing the subjective bit about cyberfeminists 'resisting rigid definitions'. The revised opening definition now reads "Cyberfeminism is a postmodernist keyword used to describe the philosophies of a contemporary feminist community whose interests are cyberspace, the Internet, and technology". I don't know that all cyberfeminisms are necessarily postmodern. I'm rather partial to the definition offered by Jessie Daniels in Rethinking Cyberfeminism(s): Race, Gender, and Embodiment: "cyberfeminism" refers to a range of theories, debates, and practices about the relationship between gender and digital culture.


 * The second sentence of the opening paragraph explains how the term was coined in 1991 by Sadie Plant. While the term was coined then, I think that we should also mention that cyberfeminism was first conceived through the writings of Shulamith Firestone circa 1970. Daniels draws a distinction between "'old' cyberfeminism, characterized by a utopian vision of a postcorporeal woman corrupting patriarchy, and a 'new' cyberfeminism, which is more about "confronting the top-down from the bottom-up".


 * A strong lead should also note the differences between cyberfeminisms, feminist technoscience, and networked feminism. Gobōnobō  + c 01:13, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

New article
I'm reluctant to add this as an external link because of the unnecessarily sensationalist title and free use of the c-word and questions about the sincerity/legitimacy of RS. But it does seem interesting to see this conclusion in this publication and it does seem of relevance to where this "movement" is today. I wonder if there are other less offensive sources for the same opinion:
 * We need to remember CyberFeminism. We need draw VNS Matrix up from the depths and inject a little into our veins. It’s good medicine. These women’s voices—weird, angry, hilarious, and staunchly defiant of the (Big Daddy) Mainframe—are sorely missing from today’s many fractured conversations about feminism in online spaces. For every screed about “ethics in gaming journalism,” for every dismissal of women’s legitimate grievances about their portrayal in gaming or treatment in online comment sections, for every death threat or doxxing attempt lodged against a woman online, I long for the howling future cunts to come along and rattle some sense into the servers.

So think about it (putting "Right on sisters" instead of the C-word) while I'm enjoying my site ban for doing too much of the above :-) Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 13:36, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

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Changed Structure
I have revamped the article's structure, organization and headings and added updated citations to reflect a more comprehensive entry. --15:42, 7 August 2018 (UTC)raisecain (talk)

Needs updated info (esp. in 2010s section)
This article needs updated information. The 2010s section starts by saying, Usage of the term cyberfeminism has faded away after the millennium... and ends by saying, The decline in volume of cyberfeminist literature in recent years would suggest that cyberfeminism has somewhat lost momentum as a movement, however, in terms of artists and artworks, not only cyberfeminism is still taking place, but its artistic and theoretical contribution has been of crucial importance to the development of posthuman aesthetics. Should we have examples of this, if these claims are true? And some text that acknowledges who made these claims? I might just take these statements out based off of what I say below.

Looking at Google News, the term Cyberfeminism is still used, and looking at Google Books, literature is still published about it in the 2010s (although yes, I'm sure not as much), and looking at Google Scholar, more articles were written referencing Cyberfeminism in the 2010s than in the 2000s. With this in mind, the above sentences don't seem true, and the 2010s section just seems very under researched and out of date. There are also other claims in the 2010s section that need to be cleaned up with either specific examples, author attributes, or additional citations (ex. "women of colour generally do not associate with cyberfeminism").

If the movement really is in the past now (although I'm not sure that it is), then there should at least be some discussion as to where it went or what it developed into. I think there could be some expansion on its mention of "Cyberfeminism 2.0" (which has also been called "Post-cyberfeminism") and on "Posthumanism". If there are sources that support it, adding information about Afrofuturism, Feminist technoscience, or Networked feminism might be worthwhile, too.

- Whisperjanes (talk) 21:57, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * For other recent Cyberfeminism movements/works, Cybertwee is also worth looking into, and we should maybe keep an eye on the Cyberfeminist manifesto that's coming out later in the year, "Glitch Feminism". - Whisperjanes (talk) 22:40, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

A sentence in the section on Xenofeminism needs clarification
In the section on xenofeminism there is a sentence that is unclear.

"According to a journal published by Jilly Boyce Kay,[31] the movement has three main characteristics: It is techno-materialist, anti-naturalist, and advocates for gender abolition. This means that the movement contradicts naturalist ideals that state that there are only two genders and aims toward the abolition of the "binary gender system"."

I am referring to the last section of the second sentence in particular: "(...) and aims toward the abolition of the "binary gender system""

Who aims towards the "abolition of the binary gender system"? Is this part of the sentence referring to xenofeminism or "the naturalist ideals that state there are only two genders".

(There are types of feminism that state there are two sexes only, and that gender should be abolished, hence the confusion.)

Thank you.

AK Petermann (talk) 16:26, 20 May 2021 (UTC)AK Petermann

The relationship between Cyberfeminism and Ecofeminism
Something which I feel would be important to add to this article is that Cyberfeminism in its many forms has often been very critical (Donna Harraway is a good example of this) and also how Xenofeminism is very critical of Ecofeminism (see: Helen Hesters book Xenofeminism), this relationship is central to Cyberfeminism as the the way in which Cyberfeminism came to form was based on many of the critiques of the essentialism and the technophobia that many of the Ecofeminists held on to, according to those Cyberfeminists which critiqued them. -Buni Ceka (talk) 21:43, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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