Talk:Cyberwarfare by China

Component parts
It would be great to have a list of the different organisations carrying out the cyberwarfare, eg 3PLA, 4PLA, the GSD, the MSS, the Strategic Support Force (总参谋部, 中央军事委员会联合参谋部, 战略支援部队, ——总参二部). --Bacon Man (talk) 11:11, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The People's Liberation Army Strategic Support Force (SSF) was the primary cyberwarfare organization until April 2024. The 2022 annual report to U.S. Congress by USCC identifies on page 442 and Appendix III some PLA units or APTs (advanced persistent threat) under the SSF.  Thanks. Path2space (talk) 02:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

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 * Rename to "Cyberwarfare by the People's Republic of China"? Biophys (talk) 06:42, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Or "by the Chinese Communist Party"? Thanks. Path2space (talk) 01:55, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

WSJ resource
Lawmakers Urge Action on Hacking December 22, 2011 by Siobhan Gorman, 99.181.132.91 (talk) 03:54, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Hardware tactic to add
99.119.128.189 (talk) 04:47, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The Hacker in Your Hardware: The Next Security Threat August 4, 2010 Scientific American
 * Please explain relevance. — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 04:53, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Is this just national efforts or groups based in China? See example below

 * Chinese Hackers Hit U.S. Media: Wall Street Journal, New York Times Are Breached in Campaign That Stretches Back Several Years January 31, 2013 WSJ

99.109.127.141 (talk) 23:56, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

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Dubious Language in Organization Section
The section "Organization" uses weasel words. Surely we can do better than "details are sketchy" and the passivity of "it is understood...". Also, the text says "China organises...." when it might be more correct to say "China categorises...", especially since the third tier of cyberattacks are those coming from outside of any possible government sanction. Even better would be some effort to distinguish what we mean when we talk about China, since--oddly enough--it is not a monolith. I would also like to suggest that this section be renamed to "Background". 24.20.45.251 (talk) 22:03, 9 May 2016 (UTC) eriol11

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 23:26, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Cyberwarfare in China → Cyberwarfare by China – Why? "in" is so vague, not just "crossing thru" X1\ (talk) 20:06, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
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Merger proposal
Because cyberwarfare is conducted by (or on behalf of) intelligence agencies it seems absurd to me to keep the article "Chinese intelligence activity abroad" and the article "Chinese cyberwarfare" separate.

This article should be merged with Chinese intelligence activity abroad.

2A0B:89C1:3:0:0:0:0:A36D (talk) 17:08, 8 September 2021 (UTC)