Talk:CyclingMikey

Name
According to this YouTube video of an interview on ITV's This Morning, his name is Mike Van Erp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYBsBtC_64w - I'm unsure if this would be a suitable source for an addition to be made to the article. 84.92.90.18 (talk) 16:13, 6 December 2021 (UTC)


 * I wasn't sure whether to include it. His name has been published in at least one reliable newspaper article but I don't think he's ever shared it himself which is why I didn't include it. I am wary of the privacy restrictions of WP:BLP and know CyclingMikey has upset quite a few people so may not want to make such personal details public! NemesisAT (talk) 12:53, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah just had a quick look at the video there and I presume he's okay with his full name being published if he allowed ITV News to use it! Thanks for sharing NemesisAT (talk) 12:55, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Nationality
why are you assuming he is Zimbabwean? Have you got a source for that? The Guardian states that he is Dutch. NemesisAT (talk) 11:36, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

www.destentor.nl https://www.destentor.nl/auto/deze-nederlandse-fietser-is-de-schrik-van-londense-wegpiraten~a76bf10b5/

Skates place of birth was Zimbabwe. Doesn't speak Dutch, never lived there. Cultivating an image that is cycle friendly might be part of the reason for claiming Dutch nationality TimBB66 (talk) 11:52, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Being born in a country doesn't make you a national of that country. Plus, that source literally says he is Dutch in the title... NemesisAT (talk) 12:19, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Gandalf's corner
Is this an encyclopedia or a comic?

How come we have a made up name for a road junction in what's meant be a serious source of truth, without any citation? If revised, some fan boy just reverses the edit. BOOBOOBEAKER (talk) 15:16, 6 March 2023 (UTC)


 * I've amended the caption to better reflect what Gandalf Corner refers to. I don't see an issue with the second use of it - do you have any suggestions for a better way to put this? Also - just a reminder of the No personal attacks and Assume good faith expectations for engaging with other editors. Vladimir.copic (talk) 22:59, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree this a reasonable description of what it refers to, thanks Vladimir.copic. Bellowhead678 (talk) 07:51, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Or, you could just put "map of Regents park". Or better still have no map at all.
 * There is no need to reference "Gandalfs corner". Made up nicknames for places which have no common usage in the English language are hardly encyclopedic. However, the subject matter on this page is incredibly thin, so I guess trivia has to be inserted to flesh it out a bit to avoid obvious notability issues. BOOBOOBEAKER (talk) 00:33, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * "Gandalf's corner" does have common usage, certainly among the cycling community on social media. I'm not sure if the junction has an official name but many people now refer to it as "Gandalf's corner", and it's very much associated with Mikey so it's right that it's mentioned in this article. WaggersTALK  12:28, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Neutrality of article
wikipedia editors' continuous deletion of article edits:

- disputes about nationality of YouTuber

- status as "Britain's most hated cyclist" in The Times newspaper, considered to be one of the UK most reliable and neutral newspaper sources while partisan cycling website links remain

- deleting edits which restore or edit maps of non-existent places

- complete deletion of contentious moral and ethical implications of YouTuber's activities 92.40.219.70 (talk) 22:19, 20 December 2023 (UTC)


 * His nationality is undisputed and well referenced. I agree that a "criticism" section, possibly referencing that Times article, might be a sensible addition - it's a surprisingly tabloid headline for what's supposedly a serious paper though and it's fairly obvious there's no evidence to back up the "most hated" title. But certainly some of Van Erp's activities have been publicly questioned and criticised, as has the whole area of citizen-powered policing, although that's obviously a different topic. The map adds useful context to the article, there's nothing non-neutral about that. Wa</b><b style="color:#86D">g</b><b style="color:#75C">ge</b><b style="color:#83C">r</b><b  style="color:#728">s</b><small  style="color:#080">TALK  12:27, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Real Name
Micheal Alexander Johan Van Erp. 2A02:C7C:DAA9:5C00:25A6:8B1A:102:FF0 (talk) 15:16, 4 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Citation needed. <b style="color:#98F">W</b><b style="color:#97E">a</b><b style="color:#86D">g</b><b style="color:#75C">ge</b><b style="color:#83C">r</b><b  style="color:#728">s</b><small  style="color:#080">TALK  12:18, 5 June 2024 (UTC)