Talk:Cyclone Fay/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Yellow Evan (talk · contribs) 21:09, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Seing that I've ever looked at the article much, I though I would review.

Lead

 * "Cyclone Fay was a tropical cyclone which struck Western Australia during the 2003-04 Australian region cyclone season." boring. Any better opener? YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * When did Fay form? YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * What direction did it move in? YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * When did Fay intensify? YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * "Fay was the only Category 5 cyclone during the season. It had a minimum pressure of 910 mbar (hPa; 26.87 inHg) and maximum wind gusts of 132 mph (213 km/h).[1] " why are you using gusts instead of sustained winds? YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * all -- TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 02:42, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There is some over linking in the section. YE  Pacific   Hurricane  03:45, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Meteorological history

 * "system was designated Tropical Cyclone 18S by the Joint Typhoon Warning Center, with winds of 25 knots (29 mph; 46 km/h)" why are you breaking WPTC rules and using knots? YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * "Fay began to turn southward on 17 March;" delink compass road directions. YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * "By March 19 Fay's track had turned to the west-southwest," see above. YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * "and on 21 March, Fay became a Category 5 storm,[6]" on what scale?. YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * "strengthening as it moved into a shortwave trough" jagron please. YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * " intensifying its poleward outflow." explain/wikilink poleward outflow. YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * " intensifying its poleward outflow." sounds like a word is missing. YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * " A mid-latitude trough caused the steering ridge to weaken, causing Fay to turn to the south.[7]" again, jagron is needed in two places
 * "It then encountered moister air as it moved southward, leading it to reintensify from 25-27 March, becoming a Category 4 storm as it made landfall on the Pilbara coast between 8:00 a.m. and 9:00 a.m. on 27 March, with estimated wind gusts of 146 mph (235 km/h). " a puch of things, 1 UTC time per WPTC standards. 2) reintensify to re-intensify. 3. wind speeds not gusts per WPTC standard. YE  Pacific   Hurricane  21:09, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * all -- TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 03:02, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Added the UTC time of landfall. Inks.LWC (talk) 03:44, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Preparations

 * Due to it's lack of size, combine it with the impact section if you like. YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * "Cyclone warnings were issued for areas threatened by the storm, and communities in the path of the storm were warned of expected high rainfall, as amounts greater than 20 centimetres (7.9 in) were expected.[10]" two things, Firs tof all, abbrvate centimeter Second of all, wikilink to tropical cyclone watches and warnings during the first two words of the sentence. YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * all -- TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 02:45, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed so that centimeters is now abbreviated. Inks.LWC (talk) 04:01, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Impact

 * Combine the first three paragraphs. YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * Any rainfall records? YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * Any damage total? YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * all: No damage/rainfall records found. -- TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 03:02, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Further fixed. The rainfall amount for one of the sites was off by a factor of 10.  Here's a question...the rainfall amounts in that report were significantly higher than the TRMM rainfall estimates.  Should we maintain the graphic when the discrepancy is this large?  Keep in mind that all rain gages actually under report rainfall, not over report, especially during high winds.  Thegreatdr (talk) 22:58, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Aftermath

 * Combine with impact. YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * Why was it retired. YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * all -- TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 02:42, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Summary
Article got better as I went along, will leave on hold for at least a week or two. YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * I'm currently finishing up a research project on a storm case study that I'll be turning in the week after Thanksgiving, so if you're willing to give me teh two weeks of it on hold, I'll get to it hopefully either late this week or early next week. Inks.LWC (talk) 06:02, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ill give you two to three weeks, hows that? YE  Pacific   Hurricane  14:17, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I haven't forgotten about this. I do plan on getting to it by Monday/Tuesday. Inks.LWC (talk) 06:47, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I have gone ahead and fixed all of YE's concerns. -- TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 03:02, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I went through and cleaned up the date formatting for the dates you added to make them consistent. YE, if there's anything else you suggest changing, I'm back from working on my research and can address the issues. Inks.LWC (talk) 03:46, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Anything new here? What's holding it back from passing? – TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 00:37, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Overlinking in lead, more MH, and combine the last two sentences of the impact. YE  Pacific   Hurricane  17:08, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I fixed the overlinking and impact, but not sure what you mean by "more mh". Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 04:56, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The Meteorological history section needs to be expanded. YE  Pacific   Hurricane  05:15, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok. Out of my expertise, so hopefully the two above can do that swiftly. Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 06:10, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm not sure I can do much more to expand that. The sources I put in are all that I can find.  If anybody else wants to add to it, go ahead.  But why wasn't expansion listed in the original things to fix? Inks.LWC (talk) 04:48, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

There are 24 advisories + a TCFA from the JTWC, that you could use to expand this article like i told you back in October. Also if you massaged the BoM report a bit you will be able to expand this article further. I recommend that this article is failed for now and renominated when its better.Jason Rees (talk) 02:05, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Inks.LWC, if I were you, what I would do is talk more about Fay's life as a tropical disturbance before it was actually a cyclone. Additionally, once it was a cyclone, I would talk more about favorable or unfavorable conditions it encountered and its appearance (convection, banding, etc). Overall, its a nice article, but probably not quite up to Good Article standards. More impact would be nice as well. – TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 02:19, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I did go through and add from the advisories from the JTWC, wherever information wasn't already stated in the article. I guess I can go through again and see if I can squeeze out a little more, but there isn't much more to add. Inks.LWC (talk) 03:59, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Try and get as much as you can. YE  Pacific   Hurricane  22:39, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * GA review failed. YE  Pacific   Hurricane  03:11, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll get to it when I have time and reapply for GA status, but it would've been nice if you would've included that in your original review comments so that I could've addressed it earlier when I had more time. Inks.LWC (talk) 07:14, 14 January 2012 (UTC)