Talk:D. J. Grothe

Popularity of podcast
The Digg link supporting that the podcast is popular was dead, so I removed it. There's gotta be some other link that can prove this, tho. Maybe another podcast rating site? 169.226.144.97 (talk) 16:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Personal Life Section
In his recent Skeptics' Guide to the Universe interview he spoke a little about his personal life, where he lives, his partners studies etc. Any SGU fans want to write this section? If not, I'll happily have a go based on that episode as my reference. Trinkella (talk) 14:43, 16 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Go for it. Richard001 (talk) 06:46, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Point of Inquiry
I think this podcast should have its own article. Podcasts of similar scope and popularity do and Grothe isn't even the host of it anymore, so redirecting here is even less appropriate. A redirect to the CFI page might be an alternative but there would have to at least be a section on the podcast, not just a mention of it. I think a full article would be better though, assuming we can get together enough sources to show its notability. Richard001 (talk) 02:19, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Centre Right?
I deleted the part to him apparently desctibing himself as centre right as the link directed to his facebook page. It does look like it's really his but on the info page it doesnt say he's centre right and I think if he mentioned it in a wall post then a date would at least be required. This is a fairly substantial statement after all.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.72.180 (talk) 05:01, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

There is no way the source for that claim matched wikipedia's guidlines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.72.180 (talk) 05:05, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

References not used yet
Have to use my crap data mining squizzles to get this article up to scratch. I've listed all I can find below. Skeptic sid (talk) 21:16, 18 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Camp Offers Training Ground For Little Skeptics - NPR
 * St. Louis Post-Dispatch : Crucifix at Culinaria is food for...
 * The Nonbelievers - Boston Globe
 * Skeptic's Million Dollar Challenge To Be More Open and Transparent Says JREF President, D.J. Grothe
 * A Skeptic’s Guide to Podcasts
 * "Civil, lively, interesting debate" planned, says participating professor
 * Paul Kurtz: In Contrast to the New Atheists, We Must Emphasize Shared Values with the Moderately Religious
 * 'Heavy Mental' show at Wealthy will rock your brain cells
 * Debunk'd:The CFI's campus crusade for common sense
 * Secular humanist student group returns to campus after hiatus
 * "The Amazing" Randi is gay: Debunker of psychics and healers comes out at 81
 * (PHOTO ONLY) MAGICIAN'S ASSISTANT 1993

Relgion: Atheist
While this line in his stats might have been written with the intention to emphasize his non-religiosity (i.e. Religion: None; he's an Atheist), i think it would be preferable to either omit it, or find a better category to define his Atheist position. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MSUGRA (talk • contribs) 22:24, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree. It's not appropriate to use "Atheist" when specifying "Religion" affiliation.--Petzl (talk) 00:16, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Spouse
This article previously identified someone as Grothe's spouse and had him in an 'LGBT people' category. While I've no specific reason to doubt those claims, they are contentious and unsourced so I removed them per WP:BLP. If anyone has a reliable source describing his personal life, they can go back in. (I'm not sure his spouse needs to be named even if a source is found, though - does anyone else have any thoughts on that?) Robofish (talk) 00:57, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * There is an interview he did on Reasonable Doubts in which he mentions that he's gay, though he didn't mention a spouse (then again, it was almost five years ago). It was episode 7: http://feeds.feedburner.com/reasonabledoubts/Msxh. 71.104.183.59 (talk) 20:38, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Cleaning up external links
I've removed the link to skeptiko.com, a website that promotes all kinds of pseudoscience: alien contact, Native Americans and "Star People", energy healing, "talk with spirits", and that's only part of the front page. The interviewer conducts the podcasts with a heavy bias, for example in the Grothe interview at around the 27 minute mark he says, "There is no there there in terms of the science for a skeptical explanation," and "they don't stand up", and "makes no sense".

The link should be disqualified on several grounds: non-neutral, unreliable, non-notable, pseudoscience, and external links to be avoided, namely "Any site that misleads the reader by use of factually inaccurate material or unverifiable research". Nvdvn (talk) 20:53, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Unproved allegation
We can't prevent it that there are these allegations in our movement. We can avoid sweeping allegations under the carpet as the RC's did with child abuse. If these matters were swept under the carpet later the whole skeptical movement could be blamed as well as those who allegedly did harassment. Is a blog by a fairly well respected scientist a good enough source so we can say there are allegations? Proxima Centauri (talk) 07:54, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia doesn't care about "our movement". Pharyngula is a reliable source, but wikipedia must also abide by WP:BLP. Ashmoo (talk) 12:05, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Pharyngula is not a reliable source. PZ Myers, who owns the blog collective, refers to them as a collection of blogs with opinions on the news, not a news source or journalism source in any way. GreaseballNYC (talk) 20:47, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Noting that I have removed the URL to the unproven allegation. Risker (talk) 03:41, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

If PZ Myers is considered a "reliable source" on Wikipedia, the phrase has lost all meaning.72.49.235.222 (talk) 00:21, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Incredibly biased article
Did he write it himself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stubborn Myth (talk • contribs) 09:45, 13 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Care to elaborate? Care to make adjustments via editing?  Or did you just come to complain? GreaseballNYC (talk) 02:26, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Moderate Reorganization of Page
I'm going to be doing some clean-up on this page; formatting issues mostly, rearranging the text a bit for better flow and re-checking the links in the references to make sure they still work. I may also add some images from wikicommons if I can find some appropriate ones. Anyone who has suggestions, please let me know.VaDawn (talk) 23:02, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * VaDawn I look forward to your changes. I think I know of some photos, will add to WMCommons. This page is long overdue.Sgerbic (talk) 00:35, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

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