Talk:DC injection braking

reference deletion
I am the author who created this page and the information written is taken out of application example qouted in the link, why is it considered as commercially motivated when the information is taken out of the application page and the page is a application example and not a marketing paper or and advertisement, Their is ABB soft starter manual reference in motor soft starter wiki page (also added by me ), it is usefull for general public to know about the product , deleting this source from which information is refered is not right. Do let me know The link http://kimo.de/index.php?file=anwend/bremsen/bremsgeraete-06-10-11.html&lang=EN Please also not that they have provided the copyrights to the picture being put too.

Shrikanthv (talk) 09:53, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, that other source is unreliable also. I removed it. Joja  lozzo  21:05, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

But MR Jolalozzo, the whole article is based on the information from the link! how is it unreliable ? Shrikanthv (talk) 08:51, 11 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Please see the policy on reliable sources, especially the sections on primary sources and self-published sources. We need good secondary sources, not a product manufacturer's document. If you disagree, you can get other opinions about the source here: Reliable sources noticeboard. If you are correct and that single source is the only one available for the article (and we determine that it is not reliable) then we should delete it all.  Joja  lozzo  16:20, 11 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Have you looked at the secondary source referenced by the Kimo doc: Schemanske, R: Electronic Motor Braking. IEEE Trans IA, Vol. IA-9, No. 5, Sept/Oct 1983? Joja  lozzo  16:24, 11 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I see a number of statements in the article for example, comparing friction brakes with DC braking, about DC injection creating a stationary magnetic field, or discussing static torque, that are not mentioned in the KIMO Industrie-Elektronik GmbH source. If the article depends on this source how does the source support that content?
 * I also see that the article promotes Kimo's products ("KIMO has developed a series of electronic braking choppers which can be especially used to subsequently increase the braking power of a frequency inverter." and "This can be solved by using ... fully regenerative frequency inverters as implemented by KIMO with the TRANSOMIK U2 series."). This would not be found in a properly published, peer-reviewed technical paper.  Joja  lozzo  16:46, 11 March 2012 (UTC)