Talk:DIN connector/Archive 1

Those are absolutely wretched pictures
Those are absolutely wretched pictures. We need to get some better ones.

I can take pix of Mini-DIN, but I don't have any regular or speaker DIN cables around... -- tooki 16:09, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * I took a picture of an old keyboard DIN connector, and also added the picture of a Mini-DIN connector from the S-Video page. Aren't I nice? Boffy b 07:48, 2005 Jan 31 (UTC)

DIN connectors photos
Hello !

I got both, 8-pin fullsized DIN and DIN speaker connector. I`m not much into wiki editing so if someone can provide me with proper email addres I will send pictures.

Adrian 'YamroZ' Jamrozik yamroz@tlen.pl

German Origins
I find it very interesting that DIN connectors, designed to comply with a German national standard, have gone on to become a (defacto?) worldwide standard. The history of this adoption would make a good addition to this article. ---Isaac R 23:15, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Really? Why? There are many US, British and French (and even a few Soviet) standards that have been adapted worldwide... Rsynnott 23:33, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't find it so surprising. A national standard from any decent country means pretty much gauranteed multi-vendor availibility. Going with a manufacturer standard leaves you with a very real chance of being stuck with a single source. Plugwash 15:31, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

PIN Order?
It would be very useful to know which pin should go where, especially when making own connection cables. http://www.vandenhul.com/artpap/wiring-din.htm -zabenoid AT gmail.com


 * I am pretty sure that sort of information does not have a home in this article, only because the DIN connector is used for such a wide variety of applications. I've seen DIN connectors for all sorts of things, so including any single pinout is incorrect. --Joey Hagedorn 00:27, 3 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I think the question of pin NUMBERING is important, even if you dont know which pin is supposed to be power, or ground, etc. It is still good to know how the pins are numbered! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.11.220.20 (talk • contribs).

Manufacturer's link:

http://www.hirschmann-ac.com/?spr=en

Apparently, the manufacturer got his connectors adopted as standard in Germany ...


 * At least the pin numbers should be shown in the images, I think (sorry, I'm not into graphics myself). When doing so, it is important to mention if the picture is meant for a male or female connector. For your convenience, here are some pinouts (some are missing in there):


 * pin numbers for male connector
 * some pin numbers for female connectors
 * some more pin configurations, but no pinouts
 * --Matthiaspaul (talk) 00:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

More variants?
IIRC, there are at least 3 different 5 pin sockets and at least 2 different 8 pin ones. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Plugwash (talk • contribs).


 * I think you're correct; somebody check a Digi-Key catalog.


 * Atlant 15:37, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I know of the 5 "dice" style, I suppose I should make that one. I've seen a 13 pin is this 'official'? Haven't seen a 2nd 8 pin though. Let me know if you would like me to diagram any of them. — Mobius 22:41, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The second 8 pin variant (offset) has the two lower pins in a slightly different place from the common 7 pin plug compatible 8 pin variant (circ). This info was from a very old maplin catalog though (i haven't had to solder up a din for years) Plugwash 19:13, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Two different four pin sockets are illustrated in the article. One with 90° between adjacent pins and one with 72° between the middle two pins of the four.  It would be nice to see more detail and a least a mention in the text of these.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.48.122.132 (talk) 20:52, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

even more
the pin numbers don't stop at 8 - they go all the way up to at least 13. i've got such a plug mated to a cable i can show you sitting in my cupboard, half made, waiting for my soldering skills to improve. making it as a replacement for a beat-up old one... it forms the monitor link between an old computer of mine, and either a proprietary monitor, or (in this case) a composite or component RGB television (e.g. here accessed via a SCART euroconnector). very odd looking thing - the pins are quite small, and arranged in a square pattern. it's devilishly hard to solder due to the size and layout, unlike the easy job i assume the fan-type DINs would be. --tahrey 15/10/06

DIN standard
Does anybody have the number for the DIN standards? If anybody does manage to find them, addition to the article and List of DIN standards would be appreciated. — Mobius 22:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The original DIN standards for these plugs are no longer available and have all been superseeded by IEC 60130-9. 17:37, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Nevertheless we should mention the original standards (DIN Norm) for reference purposes. I have added some of the DIN numbers, but I don't have a complete list. We also need images of two 6-pin and 7-pin variants not currently shown. (I have removed one of the 4-pin connectors shown, because this is not a DIN standard, but something non-standard.) There are also DIN-like connectors with 10, 12, and 14 pins (used on some slide projectors). I don't know, if they follow a DIN standard or are non-standard. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 00:00, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Fork out Mini-DIN
Covering both DIN and mini-DIN in the same article is a bit unwieldy. Both are important connectors in their own right, and have different and specific uses. And so I've forked out an article on Mini-DIN in order to better cover each. — Mobius 22:29, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Confused Wording in Intro?
Just read over the intro as revised by 62.56.108.55 diff. Anybody else think the edit hurt more than it helped? — Mobius 22:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Pin order
What is 'left' and what is 'right'? I believe it would be good to state from what view this numbering takes place. i.e. is it what you look at when you are soldering to the (back of the) plug pins or the socket pins? It won't be the same! I've just tried to open up a 5-pin DIN plug purchased from Maplins (UK). I can't open it! So can't say myself yet which way round they are, if they are not numbered on the plastic.

No doubt it doesn't matter if you're not bothered about which is 'Left channel' and which is 'Right Channel'. And is that convention stated anywhere? If no convention has been dictated for this type of numbering I suggest identification is given as when viewed when about to solder to the pins of a plug, i.e. facing the back of the plug or the front of the socket. Hopefully this is the most likely occurence for any user having to create a lead and therefore the most useful reference. - [User:ThinkAct] 20:29 14 December 2008 GMT —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thinkact (talk • contribs) 20:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * With most din plugs you have to press in the metal tab, you can then slide the back off. In my experiance the pin numbering is usually printed on the connector.Plugwash (talk) 14:19, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Quality
I don't think DIN connectors belong to a 'Professional' page. I've just found an old plug, a 180 degree 5 pin DIN, perhaps 15 years old. Its filthy! Quite unsuitable for audio connections of any quality. Thinkact Thinkact (talk) 21:03, 14 December 2008 (UTC)ThinkAct


 * 180 degree 5 pin DIN connections have been used for MIDI data in pro-audio for decades. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.70.187 (talk) 11:22, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * If your connector is filthy that says more about your storage conditions than the connector type in question. Plugwash (talk) 14:17, 22 October 2009 (UTC)