Talk:DSL router

Converged, hence merged?
This is a tough call. There are so many people confused about a DSL router vs a DSL Modem vs a DSL gateway I opted to create this little stub instead of redirecting them to the Router article which will surely confuse an end user. --User: (talk • contribs • count) 04:22, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

To finish this thought, this is a very good reason not to merge the articles. This is the router the gerenal public know about and will want to read about, for more advanced users they can look at the router article. This article in time will be expanded. --User: (talk • contribs • count) 15:05, 25 June 2007 (UTC)


 * There's a lot of technological covergence going on in this field, and what used to be large, expensive, specialized and diverse utility hardware wired together into complex networks and managed by skilled network administrators has become small, simple, versatile consumer equipment installed by people who don't know a LAN from a DSLAM. Most of these little boxes are called "router" with a prefix like "wideband" or "wireless" or other supplementary description.  Perhaps the new reality should be recognized by merging all these "x router" articles into sections of the Router article.  Of course, old-time LAN administrators, who think routers are in their baliwick, won't like it since the old distinctions are still important for their work.  Jim.henderson 14:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Jim, merging the two articles is just a terrible idea. This is why I created this stub in the first place.  A residential gateway is NOT a router.  They are network bridges and there is already a link from this article to residential gateways.  The concept was to not confuse none computer techies.  The article was created so that it would not be merged in the first place. I could have just updated the other article but being on the network cleanup project it was decided this way.  You can leave me a message on my talk page if you would like to discuss this with me but I am going to pull the merge tag. You will really need to convince me why to put routers and bridges together and cause confusion.  I own an ISP and I deal with end users all day long that have DSL and I want to make sure they know the difference. --User: (talk • contribs • count) 00:40, 14 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Speaking of which, should wireless router redirect here? Many DSL routers, including the one in the picture, are not wireless routers, and the majority of wireless routers do not include a DSL modem inside.  Jim.henderson 17:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

akc9000, the consensus is for merge. A residential gateway may not be a "router" under some definition, but it is largely what people expect when they are looking for these devices. This article, as is, contains no additional information and will likely remain a permanent stub because there isn't anything notable to say about it outside the context of a residential gateway. It is not anybody's responsibility to convince you of anything; you don't own the article and you're the only person who is against the merge (and apparently only because you're the creator of the article). If you say that the two subjects are distinct, don't tell us that the article will somehow magically expand due to your wishful thinking -- either you expand it or let it remain merged until you are ready to do so. Until then, the fact that this article exists separately is causing more confusion than you are claiming to alleviate. Ham Pastrami 17:01, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Broadband router
A "DSL" router? Why not "Broadband" router? Even the pictured router (BEFSR41) works with a cable modem. It's not DSL-only.

Plus there is already an article on residential gateways ... too many articles on the same thing.


 * Our anonymous commentator is correct. Broadband router already redirects to residential gateway and it seems to me this DSL router article too should be merged into the latter.  Jim.henderson 17:49, 7 July 2007 (UTC)