Talk:Daifang Commandery

Any source or confirmation of when "Goguryeo annexed Lelang"? Was it in AD 313 User:kt2


 * As far as my memory is correct, &#36039;&#27835;&#36890;&#37969; says so. To be precise, &#24373;&#32113; abondaned Lelang and came under &#24917;&#23481;&#24262;. Murong Hui set another small Lelang commandery in Liaodong. --Nanshu 23:11 23 Jun 2003 (UTC)

There reimains no document of the same age that explains the end of Lelang and Daifang commanderies in the peninsula.

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Samguk Sagi merely says that Goguryeo invaded the Lelang commandery in 313 and the Daifang commandery in 314. It does NOT say Goguryeo conquered or annexed them.

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According to &#36039;&#27835;&#36890;&#37969;, Zhang Tong (&#24373;&#32113;) and Wang Zun, the de fact rulers of Liaodong, Lelang and Daifang, went for help to Murong Hui, a Xianbei warlord, with his subjects in 313. Murong Hui put another small Lelang commandery in Liaodong.

Neither &#19977;&#22283;&#21490;&#35352; nor &#36039;&#27835;&#36890;&#37969; exmplain what happened to the former Lelang. Therefore, it is not clear whether Goguryeo wrested Lelang and Daifang or just filled political vacuum. And the accurate dates of there events.

The Daifang commandery was maintained in Southern Manchuria for a while although &#36039;&#27835;&#36890;&#37969; doesn't mention it. So I think "disappeared in the peninsula" is appropriate. --Nanshu 22:48, 23 Oct 2003 (UTC)