Talk:Dakinis

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Item number 3 definitely requires some qualifier

as to who believes this or where the idea comes

from. Number 2 needs some more expansion along

these lines also. --Alan Millar

Do a google search on dakini and you'll find more results using the word dakini in modern times as written in #3. The only actual way to expand #2 is to quote copyrighted material.

I did get a reply from a Professor of Asian Studies who is on sabbatical in Tibet now. He emailed "I consider Dakini to be ultimately of Indian origin, transmitted to Tibet. I'd recommend Miranda haw's  for more.  The Princeton series has a good book edited by David Gordon White,  -- another reliable source."

Clarification
A clarification: Originally, this article was titled Dakini (Buddhism) and there was a different article titled Dakini. I decided to merge them, but, when I did the merge, I found that almost all the merged text came from Dakini (Buddhism) (some of it had been placed verbatim in both articles). So, I merged the old Dakini into Dakini (Buddhism), then moved the old Dakini to Dakinis and moved the Dakini (Buddhism) to become the new Dakini, thus preserving the better edit history. The talk pages did not move, although everything on Talk:Dakini (Buddhism) appears verbatim on this page as well. - Nat Krause(Talk!) 00:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Also, please note that this article contains some text written by Nitin Kumar, taken from with permission. See User:Seemagoel. - Nat Krause(Talk!) 01:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I've moved the "Dakini(Buddhism)" to "Dakinis", so its history is together with that of the article. Graham 87 12:36, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Claptrap/merge
This article seems to consist largely of unclear, non-factual claptrap (particularly, definiton 2.)


 * That's true. It was even worse before. It's best to avoid having serious pages link here. That's why we had Dakini (Buddhism)) as a separate article. Someone merged the pages, but I'm going to restore it to the previous version. "Dakini" in Buddhism is a different concept from the weirdness discussed here. - Nat Krause 07:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Okay, I came back (exactly 1 year later, as it happens) and have re-merged the pages. I did this basically by chopping out all sorts of unsourced weirdness from this page. It was almost like a cut-and-paste move, actually, since I took very little from the existing dakini article. - Nat Krause(Talk!) 15:47, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Glos
The gloss "(lit. Sky Dancer)" is given for Dakini. This is inaccurate though very loosely based on the Tibetan translation of the term, mkha'-gro-ma, "she who travels the sky". However, this rendering is based on a false Sanskrit etymology for an Indic word which is probably of Munda origin. It is likely that dakinis were originally tribal shamanesses who chanted, drummed and invoked spirits as suggested by cognate words.--Stephen Hodge 01:19, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Dakani
Should we also list the Deccani (as in the South Indian variations of Urdu) meaning also here? Is it close enough to be confused with this?--iFaqeer 09:02, Sep 26, 2004 (UTC)

darma karma
This article is much different that the Dakini article I wrote a few years ago. The merging done and the redirects prove only that the authors wanted to erase history from their incompetence. Kindly use talk before merging next time, or better yet, keep this article separate. ~ BF 07:04, 1 October 2006 (UTC)