Talk:Dale, Virginia

Proposed Deletion
In response to the proposed deletion which states "I can't imagine a user who would arrive at that address, find this perversion of the Dab concept, and be any better off than if it were an uncreated page. At least then they would try a search producing the same results, rather than be misled about how WP is supposed to work."

I'm not as familiar with disambig as I am with redirects, but aside from the actress this is the disambig equivalent of an r from incorrect name. I don't understand the objection, why make the reader do a search when we can just simply direct him to the article he's looking for; why wouldn't the same reasoning justify deleting any other redirect and disambig where the result/s would show up in a search? Deleting this would not necessarily cause a reader to see a search page, see the limitations section of WP:DRFS. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 08:16, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The matter of the PD was closed when you declined the PD. Having taken the trouble to comment here on that, you may want to draw attention to it (or better yet reproduce part or all of it) elsewhere, but you should not expect responses under this heading. --Jerzy•t 06:58, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Moves of this talk page
At 17:29, 14 August 2013,‎ i, the user named
 * Jerzy moved page Talk:Dale, Virginia to Talk:Places in Virginia with names involving "Dale": Proper title for conceivably useful content of  page that does not function as a Dab)

without adequate reflection. That error caused 3 problems: I shall now remedy all three by moving this talk (back) to Talk:Dale, Virginia (overwriting the Rdr just mentioned), while suppressing creation of the typical Rdr at Talk:Places in Virginia with names involving "Dale". --Jerzy•t 06:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) The tag WikiProject Disambiguation moved along with the talk page from whose article i proceeded to remove the content that even arguably made it a Dab page.
 * 2) The talk page for the nominal Dab became a redirect to the talk page associated with Places in Virginia with names involving "Dale".
 * 3) I moved talk content that responded to the ProD tag i had placed on the nominal Dab page Dale, Virginia.

Redirect
I think this page should be a redirect to Places in Virginia with names involving "Dale" Then the actress page could be listed at the top of that page.JEMZ1995 (talk) 01:05, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * No. "Dale, Virginia" is not an accepted representation of any of the those places, which is why i have said before that those places cannot be listed or linked to above the "See also" secn of a Dab with that name. Nor can places whose names are not "Dale, Va." qualify individually or collectively as the primary topic for Dale, Virginia, which is a format  widely used by those who are well-informed about standard usage.  I've previously invited you to consult WP:DAB and WP:MoSDab, and i think also to express your views on their corresponding discussion pages (via the "Talk" tab that appears not far above the page title of each of those two page). If you are as stubborn as you seem about listening to experienced contributors to such pages and learning what WP guidelines say and mean, your edits will be reverted for a while, and then if problems continue perhaps your ability to edit these pages will be restricted. --Jerzy•t 07:14, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

"Incorrect name for"
I failed to comment adequately in reverting User:Bkonrad who summarized
 * actually a bit more accurate as not one of the places is correctly known as "Dale, Virginia"

Isn't that equivalent to the definition of Partial title match, and thus reason to move it into the "See also" section (without burdening the Dab page with toponomy lecture)? --Jerzy•t 01:16, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You didn't actually revert me. But in any case, I'm OK with your edit. The page is borderline useless anyhow, in my opinion. older ≠ wiser 01:29, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, silly of me. It prolly felt a little like rv bcz it's so much closer to what i envisioned when i made my first edit to it.  Ya know, there awta be a word for editors like me, who care about whether a page whose purpose seems ill-conceived to them neverthelesss goes thru the motions of conforming it to standards. The French don't care what they do  actually, as long as they pronounce it properly. --Jerzy•t 06:19, 5 September 2013 (UTC)